Thought that this thread was going to be about DTW.
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I find Aikido cringeworthy
They just think weāre stupid jocks
On the plus side, as mentioned, ukemi is great skill. Also, Aikido can be fun. Itās like playtime. The aesthetics of it are cool too, if youāre into traditional Japanese culture.
But, it also tends to attract oddly passive-aggressive people who want to ābelieveā in something.
Unlike in BJJ where things are āprovenā to work through sparing, things in Aikido are āprovenā to work through lengthy discussion. There is endless talk of āwhat I would doā if my opponent did this or that. It never, ever, gets to the physical stage where you test things.
And if you ever get proven wrong about something, there is always the classic Aikido cop out --āWell, weāre not here to learn to fight! Weāre her to lean how NOT to fight!ā Then everyone feels smug and happy about themselves.
If you make it to Black Belt in Aikido, you probably need to be de-programmed before doing any practical martial arts. Itās a journey into a strange martial pseudo-reality. Japanese Jujitsu is almost as bad, but not quite.
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Do you remember the Kung Fu San Soo in MDR where Rey used to hold classes? The theories those kids used to have on stopping basic BJJ?
Whatās crazy to think is that San Soo and lots of goofy modern martial arts pride themself on how real world practical they are, how theyāre not a TMA.
Weird thing about Aikido is that itās so recent, but they try so hard to be an old mystical TMA/ā¦
The teacher, Ron Scalon, was a good dude. Very likeable & open minded. He would often watch class and pay close attention to what was happening.
As a newish Blue Belt, I rolled with a cocky San Soo Black Belt who visited there once. He LITERALLY tried to snap my neck with a quick āneck breakā. Did not work. I arm barred him twice in a row with the same move. He was dick and learned nothing from the experience.
Everyone wants to believe in āmagicā.
āItās so appealing, the idea that a smaller person whoās been bullied, could learn this occult knowledge and easily dispatch a much larger attacker, without much effort.
Itās a fantasy --and thatās the most important aspect of TMAs; getting people to BELIEVE in something that gives them hope that the seemingly impossible is possible. āPeople think Iām just a nerd, but they donāt know I take Hapkido 2x a week and they would be in for a SERIOUS surprise if they pushed me too far!ā
Wristocks are for the most part garage. Only within the context of Jiu Jitsu principles of controlling the joint above it in a secure, stable position does it make sense. Kind of. The only wrist lock I like is when they frame my outside shoulder with an open palm when I have a cross body pin/side control.
If you think you will be wrist locking anyone when youāre standing, I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
How much?
LOL, I get a standing wristlock more often that one on the ground.
You donāt know what you donāt know.
I go for them all the time when starting from the feet or knees when rolling. Makes my opponent react even if it isnāt finished. Makes them think twice about what they are trying to do.
Yeah, itās the exact same thing going down in places of worship.
Greatā¦ letās see some proof of you rolling live and catching people with standing wrist locks.
Obviously you have mastered a skill set none of us have.
Educate us.
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You have to apply them so fast and powerfully for them to work in real time thereās almost no way to effectively do them without injuring someone. Every time I see them in tournament footage the guy tapping is fād up and in pretty significant pain. Itās not like an armbar where a lot of times you have a chance to tap before any significant pressure hits your elbow.
Iām not talking rolling. Iām talking self defense or comp pace. Different beasts.
JJJ is not that bad. But I would rather study that than Aikido.
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#1 Boolshit
Most of them are doing weeb-calibre judo as well, so there is some semi-legit sport training as well.
Most JJJ has NO Randori,. Everything including the āJudo throwsā , is done Kata style.
American/European style Sport Ju jutsu does exist --and its pretty cool-- and some dojos do Randori but I would would say the vast majority of āJJJā dojos in America and Japan do not do any form of sparring.
Iāve been to plenty of Ohana Conventions, AJJF conventions & AJA seminars & conventions both as a kid and adult and almost none of those school do randori, despite most all teaching ājudoā throws.
In the words of the head of the āAJJFā-Americaās largest & second oldest jujitsu org- āIf you want to do randori, go to a Judo dojoā.
You do know the original BJJ school (Humaita) didnāt have randori either? Even Royce said his father never believed in sparring or competitions. He said you just have to drill the techniques.
One does not need to do randori all the time to learn JJ. Constantly drilling the techniques and the occasional randori sessions are fine.
Frequent randori sessions are good for training for competitions.
I trained with a guy who went to Abu Dhabi and he had a notebook where he kept track of how many times he drilled a particular technique on that day and they numbered in the thousands. No surprise he went to Abu Dhabi, that guy was obsessed.
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Uhā¦ sorry, no.
Jiu jitsu absolutely requires continuous randori/sparring to be functional. Period. No way you get any good at grappling --of any kind-- doing kata with āoccasional randoriā. The skills are way too complex and require way too much time gathering feedback against a variety of opponents with different body type & attributes. There is no way around that.
NOBODY in the Gracie family follows that approach.
The Gracies were just trying to make $$$ off people who didnāt want to roll. Reylson Gracie still does the same thing today with students; teaches with almost no rolling and develops terrible --basically fake-- BJJ black belts. But thatās all about making money. Heās not producing legit BJJ practitioners.
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You sound like an uncoordinated boob. You need to spar all the time to get good at something? Too complex? LOL.
Iāve studied striking and grappling before. Although Iām not an expert, I got fairly good at the MAās. I didnāt even spar that much. Most of my training consisted of bag/pad work, self-defense simulation, and the occasional sparring session. I was still able to use it in street fights and against other martial artists whenever we sparred.
As for the Gracies, I didnāt know Reylson or other Gracies āliedā about not doing too much randori. Oh well. Who cares anyway?
In the end, I developed my own personal MA called Fuhen Yoshiki Ryu or just Fuhen-ryu for short. It is a blend of different Japanese and other martial arts.