2013 jaguars worst nfl team ever?

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Not even the worst this year.....


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What about the loins? They were horrible can't remember the year though Phone Post 3.0


Not even close. When the Bucs were an expansion team, they were forced to build through the draft (with no extra pics or preferred number) and free agency (when there was no unrestricted free agency) right off the bat. Other owners did not want to give the new team an advantage with a wealth of younger, cheaper players that couldn't leave the team.

From the beginning of 1976 through 1977, they lost their first 26 games in franchise history. You will NEVER see an NFL team lose 26 consecutive games again. Ever.

They have one of the best RB in the league and 2 of the best young WR in the NFL i know there is more to a team than that but they have some really talented players

Combat Sport Fan - ill never understand why the nfl thoguht it was a good idea to put a team in Jacksonville

At the time Jacksonville and Carolina were awarded franchises, there were five final bids, and only three were really plausible. The Panthers (Jerry Richardson) were a shoo-in, with the stadium deal already in place and a strong ownership group (Richardson is tight with Bob Kraft).

The second-best bid was from Memphis, and the majority stake in that group was the Elvis Presley estate. They had a stadium deal lined up, to play home games in the Memphis Liberty Bowl, which then was an EXCELLENT venue for NFL football. But at the last second, a lot of NFL owners were simply afraid of getting into bed with the living estate of Elvis and their nasty lawyers. The estate's legal reputation killed their bid, and the NFL owners defaulted to the 3rd-best group, Jacksonville. The Oilers then moved to Memphis temporarily, playing in the Liberty Bowl before their stadium was built.

The NFL cut out the Elvis group, while still grabbing that surprisingly strong Tennessee NFL market. Jacksonville just kind of ended up with a team, which is why they suck, the team has already been sold, and they will likely move to L.A. or London in coming years.

BackOffWarchild - 
Combat Sport Fan - ill never understand why the nfl thoguht it was a good idea to put a team in Jacksonville

At the time Jacksonville and Carolina were awarded franchises, there were five final bids, and only three were really plausible. The Panthers (Jerry Richardson) were a shoo-in, with the stadium deal already in place and a strong ownership group (Richardson is tight with Bob Kraft).

The second-best bid was from Memphis, and the majority stake in that group was the Elvis Presley estate. They had a stadium deal lined up, to play home games in the Memphis Liberty Bowl, which then was an EXCELLENT venue for NFL football. But at the last second, a lot of NFL owners were simply afraid of getting into bed with the living estate of Elvis and their nasty lawyers. The estate's legal reputation killed their bid, and the NFL owners defaulted to the 3rd-best group, Jacksonville. The Oilers then moved to Memphis temporarily, playing in the Liberty Bowl before their stadium was built.

The NFL cut out the Elvis group, while still grabbing that surprisingly strong Tennessee NFL market. Jacksonville just kind of ended up with a team, which is why they suck, the team has already been sold, and they will likely move to L.A. or London in coming years.

Additionally, the Memphis team was to be called the Memphis Hound Dogs.

BackOffWarchild - Not even close. When the Bucs were an expansion team, they were forced to build through the draft (with no extra pics or preferred number) and free agency (when there was no unrestricted free agency) right off the bat. Other owners did not want to give the new team an advantage with a wealth of younger, cheaper players that couldn't leave the team.

From the beginning of 1976 through 1977, they lost their first 26 games in franchise history. You will NEVER see an NFL team lose 26 consecutive games again. Ever.
While I agree That the initial Bucs were the worst ever. I think Jacksonville might be able to pull this feet off and set the record. Phone Post 3.0

Why would an NFL team go to London? Do you guys think going to Europe will work?

warmonky - Why would an NFL team go to London? Do you guys think going to Europe will work?

Nope. Not in the slightest. But the NFL is going to London, and that franchise will be fucked. But Goodell, like all major sports' commissioners, cares about legacy. And so far, all he has is concussions, the Saints debacle where courts pimpslapped him and he had to beg a former commish to sort out his mess, and the biggest bullshit work stoppage (lockout) in the history of major U.S. sports.

Dude is DESPERATE to be the guy that puts a team in Europe.

The fact that Jacksonville, Charlotte, Phoenix and several other cities have teams and not LA makes me sad. The nfl is retarded if they think a team will work in London. The distance from Seattle, SF, SD is way to much. It would be brutal for any team to travel that much in a season. Especially with as physical as it is in the NFL.

If they really want more revenue it's easy. And can be done without making it more risky for players. Add an extra bye week. It will add more tv revenue (the biggest source of $) and allow players to recover a bit more in the season. Phone Post 3.0

BackOffWarchild -
warmonky - Why would an NFL team go to London? Do you guys think going to Europe will work?

Nope. Not in the slightest. But the NFL is going to London, and that franchise will be fucked. But Goodell, like all major sports' commissioners, cares about legacy. And so far, all he has is concussions, the Saints debacle where courts pimpslapped him and he had to beg a former commish to sort out his mess, and the biggest bullshit work stoppage (lockout) in the history of major U.S. sports.

Dude is DESPERATE to be the guy that puts a team in Europe.
It would be better for his legacy to get a team in LA THAN London. So would adding a second bye week. The guy makes no damn sense to me. Phone Post 3.0

Jaybrone - The fact that Jacksonville, Charlotte, Phoenix and several other cities have teams and not LA makes me sad. The nfl is retarded if they think a team will work in London. The distance from Seattle, SF, SD is way to much. It would be brutal for any team to travel that much in a season. Especially with as physical as it is in the NFL.

If they really want more revenue it's easy. And can be done without making it more risky for players. Add an extra bye week. It will add more tv revenue (the biggest source of $) and allow players to recover a bit more in the season. Phone Post 3.0

Great post. If the NFL were even SLIGHTLY concerned about player safety, like they pretend to be, two changes would be immediate:

1. An extra bye week
2. Elimination of the horrible Thursday night game

BackOffWarchild -
warmonky - Why would an NFL team go to London? Do you guys think going to Europe will work?

Nope. Not in the slightest. But the NFL is going to London, and that franchise will be fucked. But Goodell, like all major sports' commissioners, cares about legacy. And so far, all he has is concussions, the Saints debacle where courts pimpslapped him and he had to beg a former commish to sort out his mess, and the biggest bullshit work stoppage (lockout) in the history of major U.S. sports.

Dude is DESPERATE to be the guy that puts a team in Europe.
Nope the NFL just has their feelings hurt that the most popular American sport internationally is easily the NBA. It probably isn't even close. Phone Post 3.0

There are a ton better places for a team than London. That's just the commish's pet project. LA is obvious, but there are plenty of others, too. The distance, logistics, and fanbase just don't add up for London. Phone Post 3.0