PatK - Chicago radio legend Steve Dahl said that one of the best things he did raising his kids was that he wouldn't allow them to have friends sleep over or to sleep over at someone's house when they were in high school (other than some rare exceptions).We never did that either
Which kind of makes sense. I know when I was in high school and slept over at someone's house, it was usually because we were up to no good
by 14 I expect my two children will be involved in afterschool activities of some sort, taking their weekdays up till 7 or 8pm. thats about 12 hours a day with their "peers" leaving 2 or 3 hours a night for actually being at our residence before they retire to their bedrooms, if im lucky.
my goal is to keep laying down the foundation for them to be level headed enough to self regulate during all those hours away from dad, because if mine are anything like me, prolly prefer to learn with their asses, not their brains. 
On the converse, once they go to college you have to start treating them like an adult.
Even though you support them, they're not your kids any more. They're young adults learning to be adults and you have to mentor them as adults and let them find their own way.
One of my parents treats me like I'm still 14. I'm in my 30s, independent, professional.
I have absolutely zero respect for them because they still treat me like a child and they've never grown up as a parent -- even though they were great when I was younger.
Don't be that person.
MagSlim - On the converse, once they go to college you have to start treating them like an adult.Yea you def don't want to be that person.
Even though you support them, they're not your kids any more. They're young adults learning to be adults and you have to mentor them as adults and let them find their own way.
One of my parents treats me like I'm still 14. I'm in my 30s, independent, professional.
I have absolutely zero respect for them because they still treat me like a child and they've never grown up as a parent -- even though they were great when I was younger.
Don't be that person.
SallymeetsHarrySack - Hopefully you realize a parent is a friend to a kid, should be a best friend. Doesn't mean you still can't wear the role of disciplinarian and boss. Real parenting does not start at 14-15, that is the dumbest shit ever. I see little fucks that weren't raised properly at half that age who turned out to be degenerates. If you raise your kids properly you won't have teenage misfits you have to reign in and worry about 24/7.You really didn't read my post too much at all.
The problem is parenting is being left to baby sitters, after care and grandparents too much these days. I have seen quite a few teens who needed very little parenting because they were raised properly.