alkalizing diet - RECIPES

Why the hell not:

You can do this with either "Dinosaur kale" or normal kale. Personally I prefer Dinosaur kale & Fuji apples, because I like a little tartness

KALE & APPLES

1 whole bun kale

1 whole apple

1/2 cup chicken stock (or miso stock, if vegan)

1 tblspn olive oil (or to taste)

Soy Sauce to taste (just a little bit)

Splash of red wine (I like a little Merlot or Cabernet)

3 cloves garlic (pressed)

Honey to taste

Salt

Pepper

1st: clean & chop apple & kale to preference. I like 1/2 inch cuts for the cale, and 1/4 inch slices of apple.

2nd: heat a large non-stick pan on medium flame and add the soup stock & olive oil, bring to a light boil, then add everything except kale, apple & pepper.

3rd: turn up the heat to med-high, once the broth comes to 2nd boil, and add kale and apples. Cook to taste.

I prefer to cook the kale & apples until the apples just brown & the kale just darkens & begins to shrink; nutritionwise, the less you cook it the better.

There are innumerable other ways to do this, of course.

Whats the point of an alkalizing diet?

Here's one more, format a little lazy, for now:

Bleu Cheese-like salad dressing (creamy vinaigrette style) for alkaline/vegan diet:

Olive oil

Apple cider vinegar

Soy imitation bleu cheese crumbles

1 clove garlic

salt

pepper

tahini/miso/both

soy culture (like yogurt)

honey

Maybe discuss point of alkalizing diet on another thread - there are several already.

Recipes, here, please.

Merely a request.

In Dr. Youngs Alkaline diet apple don´t go because of the sugar........

Dr. who?

At about 6pm or later, some day when you haven't worked out yet, go get yourself a pH testing kit for aquariums and don't eat anything for 90 minutes. After that 90 minutes is up, pee and test its pH. Then eat 2 apples. Wait, and don't eat anything else. A cup or two of water is OK if you want it. Next piss you take, test your pee again. Then go tell Dr. Young what you think of his book.

Here's a quick appetite killer, for alkaline diets, esp when cutting weight:

Miso soup concentrate (to personal taste)

Water (your choice how much)

Tofu cubed (firm or soft, your choice)

Water

Spinach

First, boil the water, then kill the flame, and add everything else. Stir. Eat.

Green onions are good in this, too.

Zero1, how old are you, by the way?

Just curious.

I'm probably the only person on this board who cooks, huh.

Even the women here probably eat out, mostly.

Today in the supermarket, the checker picked up one of my items and asked, "What's this is?"

"Red onion," I said.

"Oh."

I love to cook but those recipies look like food I would rather not eat :).

Aha....

Are you sure it's not Fear of a Whole Foods talking?

The kale will probably surprise you. The miso/spinach soup is just miso soup, really.

If you like Bleu Cheese vinaigrettes, you'll like the salad dressing. It's just a matter of amounts in ingredients.

I swear.

I remember you lost alot of weight, CFA. If you care to talk about your diet before/during/after losing the weight, I'd be curious to hear about it.

I'm in the process of losing what will end up being about 60 pounds, before I start thinking about upping my calories, overall. In your case, I'm guessing training hours - & possibly youth - played a bigger part than for most people.

Actually I did a lot of starving to lose the weight. I ate one campbells soup can per day for a few months and lost about 80+ pounds.

Training for my current fight I am eating around 5 times a day with meals being spinich or tuna + lettuce or chicken breast + lettuce and lots of water. Not too much variety because really I enjoy eating pizza and mac and cheese and ribs and steaks with potatos. So until I can eat that stuff again I would rather just suffer with fast bland food :).

" Actually I did a lot of starving to lose the weight.

Ouch.

Believe it or not, I haven't counted calories 1 day to lose my first 40. But I do check the nutritional info on almost everything I buy, and I've changed my eating habits for about 6 mo's or so, thus far.

Mainly, I went to green diet, and moved carbs to the early part of the day, eating fruit carbs and veggie/legume carbs instead of grain carbs & processed carbs.

What do you do carbwise? If you can train on a diet that is as carb-dry as you seem to be indicating, you probably have a somewhat unique ability in that regard. It probably is easier to do in your youth, too, i.e. train on a carb-starved diet.

FWIW, I used to love all those foods, as well. I can't eat them any more, though. They make me feel incredibly crappy when I do eat them (i.e. the fatty/starchy/beefy foods).

Green diet sort of enforces itself. Once you get really clean, you just feel like crap whenever you eat starchy or meaty foods.

I let myself have a bunch of chips yesterday and felt sick with sleep and food stupor for several hours.

I dont take in too many carbs. In the morning i have a protein shake that has about 20 carbs and the spinich has carbs. I may snack a slice of bread with 10 carbs in it also. Remember that I have to lose a good amount of weight before a fight to make weight. My body runs pretty good without much carbs mostly I think because it has grown acustomed to do so.

Kale makes me fart.

CFA - I bet some of it is your age. When I was 24 I was a different being altogether (I'm approaching 40, now).

I still eat a slice of bread, too, when I want one.

Light servings of grain carbs aren't as bad as complex meals of meat & grain carbs, in terms of after effects, and some small amount of them seems even to contribute to alkalizing effects of foods overall, based on measurements of effects of meals on (urine) pH readings.

To get to your weight - I probably am about the same lean weight as you - I will have to diet more extremely, obviously. My weight loss has slowed considerably since I am 40 lbs lighter. The first 30 pounds was a snap, nearly .5 lb a day on many days. Now, it's maybe 1 lb every other week. I know it's possible to lose more with more extreme dieting, but I am going for the long term, permanent loss (i.e. sustained/sustainable change in eating).

ttt

obiwan: I am not certain that much age has too much to do with my weight loss. It was a ton of hard work and if i eat bad I will get fat extremely fast. You are right though, I lost 30 pounds in the first month and then it slowed considerably and took about 6 months to lose it all. I have heard nothing but good things about the alkaline diet.

As for sustaining my weight loss, I have kept it off almost 3 years now.

maybe do some scientific research and see what changing your body's ph will do to you.

I´am 27. You know I do a lot of research in this kind of stuff and I don´t want to critize you. I just found out that so many people have different opinions about this kind of diet. I can´t judge it.

The thing with Randys diet is that everything they say and the stuff you can read in the Team Quest manual is based on Dr. Youngs alkalize diet. It is very obvious because all the mental sutff in the team quest manual is from Tony Robbins and Robbins is with Dr. Youngs diet.

Even in the manual they mention not to eat fruits.

Personally I can´t imagine a diet without fruits because I love them and I think they are healthy.

I have books about alkalizine diets and for example some say avocados are great while other say they are bad.

My opinion about that is eat naturally and it is o.k. Frutis, vegetables and lean meat and everything should be alright.

Take care
Björn
www.Fighter-Fitness.com

Look around a bit more, Zero1. You'll find out that most people who tout alkalizing diets do not discourage fruit - only certain kinds of fruit.

There are some people that conclude fruits are acidic because when you press a litmus paper to, say, a fresh slice of citrus, it gives a very acid reading. The question isn't what the pH is before it goes in your mouth, but what happens in the body after you eat it.

CFA - I actually was talking about age and being able to sustain workouts on a diet of very restricted carbs. I reduce my carbs, but not to the point where I get crazy carb cravings if I suddenly eat something rich in grain carbs. That was my problem with Atkins - that when I came off it was like being a junky, except for carbs suddenly (as soon as carb intake restarted) instead of heroin.

It is definitely easier to take weight off when you are younger, for most people. I used to lose weight really easily. Now that I'm older, it was a b*tch to get the ball rolling, but once the weight really started coming off, until I hit this semi-plateau, it was pretty smooth & fast sailing - still not like when I was younger, though. Another factor is that I can't work as hard as when I was younger; soreness is more regular and lasts about twice as long.