Anti-Gun rants on Facebook...

Anyone have any good ones?

I saw this today:

"My rant for the year...OUTRAGEOUS! But no, guns aren't a problem??? This isn't mass stabbings...it's mass SHOOTINGS...with GUNS!!! There is obviously a problem. NO ONE needs to have guns just for the hell of it...NO ONE!!! For hunting, yes, and thorough and effective background checks are absolutely necessary!! I will not debate with you...just expressing my opinion. How many people need to die for people to wake up?!?! Everyone and anyone owning guns because they have the 'right' to is BULLSHIT!!!"

Anyone see any good pro-gun rants?

Yet in reality swimming pools kill more people than guns each year...

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIEEEEEEE before we regulate those mini water features in people's backyards. 

Those ranting people have a point though, guns should just be illegal so they go away and can't hurt people, its worked with heroin. Heroin is illegal and everyone knows that insures nobody gets hurt by heroin.

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Yet in reality swimming pools kill more people than guns each year...



HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIEEEEEEE before we regulate those mini water features in people's backyards. 



LOL!

BJ Penn Forever - Those ranting people have a point though, guns should just be illegal so they go away and can't hurt people, its worked with heroin. Heroin is illegal and everyone knows that insures nobody gets hurt by heroin.


LOL!

jcblass -


Yet in reality swimming pools kill more people than guns each year...



HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO DIEEEEEEE before we regulate those mini water features in people's backyards. 

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More people are killed by drunk drivers every year..... But the liberal left don;t want their Beer and Wine taken away simply because stupid people drink and drive irresponsibly. But guns...........

i got tired of one from a woman i went to high school with

 

she posted a bunch of things and had tons of replies and on one she said guns should be banned...and i simply typed "sure eliminate the 2nd amendment right after you elimnate the 1st"

Uk banned guns and they have 130,000 knife attacks annually.  Yup, seems like when you get rid of guns crimes go away.

Here's a FRAT of an idea that the NRA can shoot down since they own congress anyways.

We don’t blame the car, we blame the driver. Regardless of the object’s intent (the car is for transportation and the gun is shoot people, targets, game, and skeet), neither a car nor a gun can kill or maim without human touch.

And I agree. Comparing guns and cars is fair, after all they kill about the same number of Americans every year: 33,687 motor vehicle deaths and 31,672 firearm deaths in 2010 (the latest year for which complete data is available). The death rates per 100,000 are almost identical: 10.9 for motor vehicles and 10.3 for firearms.

So let’s legislate guns just like we legislate motor vehicles:

Learners permit at age 15 and a formal test required for a license at 16. This kind of law would prevent deaths of young children who are taken by their parents to firing ranges to “try out” weapons. Or parents letting their kids shoot a gun in any situation. Just as a nine-year old isn’t allowed to drive a car, so they shouldn’t be allowed to fire a 9 mm Micro Uzi. It is doubtful children firing automatic weapons was the intention of our founding fathers when they crafted the second amendment. Hunting is no exception. Kids can’t drive a car or truck for any purpose and nor should they be shooting a firearm. 

Require renewal of the license every 2-3 years. I have to renew my driver’s license, why not renew a license to fire a gun?

*Require a different license for different classes of weapons. A driver of an 18 wheeler requires a different license. Handling a vehicle of that size with air brakes is very different from driving an automatic, 6 cylinder car. If you want to purchase a semi-automatic weapon, it should require a different license


*Registration. Cars have to be registered, so all guns should be too. Remember, we’re saying guns are no more lethal than cars, so if it’s good for a car it’s good for a gun. Registering a weapon doesn’t infringe on the right to own. Gun licensing and registration will create government jobs!

*Require gun insurance. If I ever intend on driving my car, I need insurance, so that same standard should apply to firearms. Safe gun owners (gun not stolen and used in a crime, no accidents around the house, trigger locks etc.) will get breaks, and the insurance money can be used to pay hospital bills (just like car insurance) if you inadvertently injure someone with your weapon.

*Safety testing. I have to get my car smog tested every 2-3 years, so why not bring the gun in for inspection? Failure to present the gun without proof of legal sale would imply illegal sale or theft and impart significant penalties. Gas stations do smog testing, so firing ranges could easily step up to the plate as I am sure they are advocates of gun safety and maintenance.

*Tax ammunition. Heavily. Gasoline is taxed. Heavily. However, ammunition is relatively cheap. For example, a 40 round magazine for an AK-47 can be purchased online for $29.99, which is less than a dollar a bullet and far less than a tank of gas. I propose a steep tax on ammunition that exponentially increases with the size of the magazine. The tax money can go for education about gun safety or to pay medical expenses for victims injured in gun crimes.

*Prevent online sales of ammunition. Since you can’t buy gasoline online for home delivery, you shouldn’t be able to buy ammunition online. Alaska; California; Cook County, IL; Hawaii; Massachusetts; New York City; and Washington, D.C. already restrict shipping ammunition from online sales, so why not the rest of the country? If it’s illegal in several states and D.C. the laws preventing online sales must have survived legal challenges, so it’s time to go national.

*Require trigger locks. Cars have locks to prevent theft and protect children from climbing in and starting the car. No one argues, “Cars shouldn’t have a key for the ignition in case you are being chased so you can make a quick getaway.” If you can take time to start your car, you can take time to start your gun. The news is rife with stories of teenagers or young children either accidentally or intentionally killing with a gun from the home. A lock could prevent this. Obviously, people can choose to leave their guns unlocked, but… (see below).

*Require more of gun manufacturers. If 15 people a year were killed by a Prius in a freak accident Toyota would be all over it, yet somehow gun manufacturers get away with no press after gun deaths. I’m not talking about homicides, but accidental ones. Like the five people shot by accident at gun shows on gun appreciation day. Not quite 100 people a year were killed by vehicles backing up, but car manufacturers responded with rear-end camera and alarms. Couldn’t gun manufacturers find a way to make guns safer? To make trigger locks difficult to bypass? Car manufacturers want to keep their drivers and occupants safe, shouldn’t gun manufacturers do the same?

We can learn a lot by comparing guns to cars. None of the above says it isn’t your right to have a gun, just that we all have a stake in safe gun ownership.

So please, yes, let’s start comparing guns to cars.


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Anyone not read Facebook rants?

"Learners permit at age 15 and a formal test required for a license at 16."

Sounds good to me. We should require every single person to go thru a gun safety course.


"This kind of law would prevent deaths of young children who are taken by their parents to firing ranges to “try out” weapons. Or parents letting their kids shoot a gun in any situation. Just as a nine-year old isn’t allowed to drive a car, so they shouldn’t be allowed to fire a 9 mm Micro Uzi. It is doubtful children firing automatic weapons was the intention of our founding fathers when they crafted the second amendment."

Sooooooo what are the statistics of young children dying at firing ranges "trying out" weapons? And specifically Micro Uzis? Is this a huge problem that I am not aware of? One that would constitute changing a current amendment?



"Hunting is no exception. Kids can’t drive a car or truck for any purpose and nor should they be shooting a firearm. Require renewal of the license every 2-3 years. I have to renew my driver’s license, why not renew a license to fire a gun?Require a different license for different classes of weapons. A driver of an 18 wheeler requires a different license. Handling a vehicle of that size with air brakes is very different from driving an automatic, 6 cylinder car. If you want to purchase a semi-automatic weapon, it should require a different license*Registration Cars have to be registered, so all guns should be too. Remember, we’re saying guns are no more lethal than cars, so if it’s good for a car it’s good for a gun."

First, let me educate you on something. the word "Semi Automatic" makes no sense what so ever. Its either Automatic or not. In "Vehicle terms" you have an Automatic and a Manual. A gun that is not automatic fires one bullet for every trigger pull so there is no "Semi Auto". Also, different classes as far as what? Caliber? Length? weight? Color? You should be more specific otherwise this makes zero sense.


"Registering a weapon doesn’t infringe on the right to own. Gun licensing and registration will create government jobs!Require gun insurance. If I ever intend on driving my car, I need insurance, so that same standard should apply to firearms. Safe gun owners (gun not stolen and used in a crime, no accidents around the house, trigger locks etc.) will get breaks, and the insurance money can be used to pay hospital bills (just like car insurance) if you inadvertently injure someone with your weapon.*Safety testing. I have to get my car smog tested every 2-3 years, so why not bring the gun in for inspection? Failure to present the gun without proof of legal sale would imply illegal sale or theft and impart significant penalties. Gas stations do smog testing, so firing ranges could easily step up to the plate as I am sure they are advocates of gun safety and maintenance.Tax ammunition. Heavily. Gasoline is taxed. Heavily. However, ammunition is relatively cheap. For example, a 40 round magazine for an AK-47 can be purchased online for $29.99, which is less than a dollar a bullet and far less than a tank of gas. I propose a steep tax on ammunition that exponentially increases with the size of the magazine. The tax money can go for education about gun safety or to pay medical expenses for victims injured in gun crimes.Prevent online sales of ammunition. Since you can’t buy gasoline online for home delivery, you shouldn’t be able to buy ammunition online. Alaska; California; Cook County, IL; Hawaii; Massachusetts; New York City; and Washington, D.C. already restrict shipping ammunition from online sales, so why not the rest of the country? If it’s illegal in several states and D.C. the laws preventing online sales must have survived legal challenges, so it’s time to go national.Require trigger locks. Cars have locks to prevent theft and protect children from climbing in and starting the car. No one argues, “Cars shouldn’t have a key for the ignition in case you are being chased so you can make a quick getaway.” If you can take time to start your car, you can take time to start your gun. "


Ok, Insurance for your gun. Fine. I won;t argue that as I am a legal gun owner and have never had an "accident".
Trigger locks? Make that a law? For whom? All the laws you and the rest of the anti gun people want to put in place are supposed to take the guns out of criminals hands correct? Why would you require a law abiding citizen to do such a thing by law? Most Legal gun owners already do this without having to be told by people like yourself.



"The news is rife with stories of teenagers or young children either accidentally or intentionally killing with a gun from the home. A lock could prevent this. Obviously, people can choose to leave their guns unlocked, but…"

Rife? really? Oh and nice try, trying to lump together "accidental shootings" and Murder. One is done on accident by a non criminal, the other is perpetrated by a criminal who wouldn't have a gun because of all the new laws you want. Also, see my previous answer.



"(see below).Require more of gun manufacturers. If 15 people a year were killed by a Prius in a freak accident Toyota would be all over it, yet somehow gun manufacturers get away with no press after gun deaths."

If a Prius had a manufacturing flaw that killed people then yes, they would be all over it. If a gun had a manufacturing flaw, it would not be on the market as it would have been caught and fixed before going to market. Unless that is, you have a statistic in which flawed guns are killing people in which case you have no argument against guns to begin with.


" I’m not talking about homicides, but accidental ones. Like the five people shot by accident at gun shows on gun appreciation day. Not quite 100 people a year were killed by vehicles backing up, but car manufacturers responded with rear-end camera and alarms. Couldn’t gun manufacturers find a way to make guns safer? To make trigger locks difficult to bypass? Car manufacturers want to keep their drivers and occupants safe, shouldn’t gun manufacturers do the same?"


Guns are safe. There are millions of legal gun owners. How many "accidents" a year are there? the types you are talking about? What is the percent to total? I can tell you its very very minute.

"We can learn a lot by comparing guns to cars. None of the above says it isn’t your right to have a gun, just that we all have a stake in safe gun ownership.

So please, yes, let’s start comparing guns to cars."



We can learn ALOT I agree. The most glaring fact I can think of is that alot more people die every year from car accidents than from gun "accidents" and murder combined. Even with all your great restrictions on driving. How many people get drunk, jump in their car then kill other innocent people as well as themselves every year? Are your "car restrictions and laws" working in order to save people? The answer is NO. Lets regulate cars even more. I don't care if you don't drink and drive. I want a law that says you have to blow into a breathalizer every time you get into your car in order for it to start. On top of that, we want the government to charge you for said device on a monthly basis in order to pay for the people that somehow got their car started when drunk and killed someone. Otherwise, you are not allowed to own a car. Take the bus.

Sounds good right?

I'm like everybody else. There doesn't seem to be a magical answer here. To do nothing because congress is bought & paid for by the NRA doesn't seem like a good answer. Major psych eveluation before purchasing a gun? Be-heading ghetto straw purchasers? Man I don't know. I have yet to hear any fantastic solutions either so this issue is kinda sorta frustrating. Phone Post 3.0

MUSKETS ONLY!

I've seen a similar argument with gun/car thing. I remember a couple counter points. I can purchase as many cars/guns as I want, and as long as I only use them on my property they don't have to be licensed. And my licensed car/gun can be taken across any state lines without restrictions. Phone Post 3.0

Maybe the center for disease control should stick to working on things like ebola and cancer.

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Uk banned guns and they have 130,000 knife attacks annually.  Yup, seems like when you get rid of guns crimes go away.

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