Anti UFC Rap Diss Track Yo

Awesome diss song, he totally buried Dana with those insults. I mean Dana might as well fold up shop and disappear. This was the equivalent of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Nuclear bomb style and might be as good as Ether.

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Jake Paul is horrible musically, and this video wasn’t that good but I’m glad he’s shitting on Dana for fighter pay.

Fighters have very little leverage and get payed like trash. The UFC deserves to take heat, but nothing will change until there are bidding wars from rival promotions.

I hope Eagle FC, LFA, ONE FC and Bellator grow enough to be competitive.

Ballator pays 60% of their revenue to fighters while the UFC pays 16%

There will be bidding wars in the future

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60% of Bellator revenue is a minuscule fraction of UFC revenue.

There will be no bidding war with Bellator who only really manages to snag pst prime UFC guys by over paying them for their current value.

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That’s why other orgs need to grow and create a bidding war.

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It’s a hard cycle to break. I’m all for employees getting their fair share in any company over owners and higher ups continuing to get more rich.

Tough road though.

I agree, the bidding wars would have already happened 10 years ago but the UFC bought their biggest rivals

Pride, Strikeforce, WEC, EliteXC

We’ll see if they buy anyone else, but they are in a strong position. Especially if their stock keeps going up.

They are the best promotion at this time for sure, so I doubt it, but we’ll see.

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Economies of scale. They are free to go but are operating within a budget. That’s why most fighters would rather sign with the UFC.

I know a former UFC champion who was making more on the regional scene 15 years ago when the UFC offered him a $10k/$10k contract. He waited a long time to sign until they have him what he wanted.

I also know a top contender in the UFC who made less than $10k a year on the regional scene and had to live with relatives. Once he signed with the UFC he made $150k in 14 months.

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The problem with mma is that it is an international sport and labor could be had for cheap. All of those preliminary fighters could be churned out and no one would care. Fighters from poorer countries have no problem making $24k USD a fight when compared to the labor market in their nation. These same fighters can eventually grow to become elite level fighters like the Dagestani guys.

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That’s fair…

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UFC don’t need to calibrate with JP for anything. He already doing all the work for free.

The best part about this is that these guys are clicking on the video to drive up his YouTube clicks which increases his payment. Some of these same people then talk about fighter pay while not paying for UFC ppv. So they would rather help a guy who complains about fighter pay make more money than buy ppvs which indirectly or directly goes to fighter pay.

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That makes a lot of sense and expected.

The bottom of the talent pool I’m not surprised they make peanuts. Like 99% of writers who make nothing, and will never be published or music artists.

What’s surprising is the top talent, the top 25 in each weight class in world are not making millions.

The top 25 of any other mainstream sports , soccer players, boxers, hockey, event thought they’re international sports, they are all in the $10m plus range and that’s from competition.

The UFC bought all their competition but as the sport grows and matures it will for sure come with increased fighter pay. MMA is a young sport.

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You are comparing apples and oranges.

There are literally 13 NHL players making $10MM+, I just counted them.

Maybe there are 25 boxers in the range (doubt it).

The NBA brings in tons more revenue than the UFC but there are only like 500 players in the league. More money, smaller roster.

UFC has like 11 divisions total, are you saying that there are 275 UFC fighters (top 25 in each weight class) that should be making that kind of money?

These sports are so different you can’t do direct comparisons at all. It doesn’t work.

Boxing is maybe the best comparison but it’s not what people think. It is worse than UFC by far but insanely better at the top end, which is all people see.

UFC fighters should make more, but we need realistic comparisons.

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Ok, fair enough, we can’t do direct comparisons of all sports to the UFC.

My point is, ethically the UFC is no worse than any other sports team/league.

Baseball, Basketball, Football, soccer. They would all gladly pay their athletes next to nothing if they could. But the competition and need for top athletes to generate revenue for their brand does not allow them to short change athletes.

The UFC controls their space, they’re a monopoly that pays their fights very little.

Maybe not $10 million for the top 25 in each division.

Maybe $1 million for the top 25 in each would be realistic and they could definitely swing that.

I believe they paid $190m-$200m in 2020 to fighters or around 18%

If they paid 50% like most sports it would be closer to $550m pay roll for the 700-800 fighters under contract. That would make more sense. But they don’t have to, so they won’t.

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The fact is that it is possible to make a ton of money in the UFC if you self promote.

They provide an international platform.

They are shit at promoting fighters, they are promoting their brand over all else.

Sean O’Malley makes more than many ranked guys.

Why?

Because he self promotes and hustles.

Chael made a ton in the UFC Because he self promoted.

Most fighters are not going to touch the top 5. Most guys ranked number 15 just are not that good.

There is zero incentive to pay the number 15 guy who has 500 Twitter followers and no Instagram very much money.

The UFC is in the UFC business. If you want the money you dont just show up and fight and always say shit on the mic like “ill fight whoever the fans or the ufc wants im just happy to be here”.

That person will never ever be a star.

I dont give a damn about people saying what is fair because first of all life isnt fair and second of all the UFC doesnt make money off the number 10 guy they lose money on that guy.

They are making a small investment in those lower tier fighters in the HOPE that they blow up and turn into a draw.

If you are a draw in the ufc you get paid. If you make them money you get paid.

Comparing it to team sports is stupid. People mostly come to see their TEAM. If by chance you are a killer in a team sport you will definitely make more money because making the team more successful means the team gets more fans engaged.

The UFC and MMA are nothing like those models. You have to fucking produce butts in the buckets as an individual.

People have to want to see YOU. The UFC is the team and if you are a curtain jerker you are basically a bench warmer until you prove otherwise.

Yeah I want fighters to make more. Nobody fucking owes them a damn thing, tho. Get a good manager or learn self promotion.

If you do neither of these those 10k paychecks are your own fault.

Fucking Nate made dog shit before Conor wanted him paid. He owes everything to Conor because he is the one who accepted 25/25 even after years of fighting.

He is also at best mid tier… but now he makes bank.
Why?

A good promoter, Conor, made it happen.

The blueprint is there. Do it or dont but when you don’t have a fucking roof over your head because the marerials for the house are still laying in your driveway there is only one person to blame.

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It’s catchy