Anyone a land nav/orienterring expert?

ORIENTEERING i mean

 

1) do you prefer your compass in km or mi?

km seems easier;
10th ranger bead = 1km(each bead after 100m)
Army Grids are 100km/sq
Easy to translate scales.. 1:200000 = remove "00" gives 2000 meters, remove "000" give 2km, so 1cm distance on a map=2km in real life.
You just gotta translate 1km=.6-ish mile or 1 mile= 1.6-ish km

BUT

Here in the USA, we use miles, and are familiar with how far fractions of miles traveled are.

2) I have a Suunto MC-2 compass. Even though it has a inclinometer built in, it also has degree marking on the side of the lid. any idea how to use them? Are they inclination angles as it would relate to a topo/contour lines map?

3) Say i shoot a azimuth of 236 degree to where i want to travel and i'm not able to pick anything to leap frog to.. and lets also say I dont constantly check my bearing, so due to latteral drift, i notice eventually, I'm not longer on course (dog not in dog house/red not in shed/whatever you wanna call it)... how do i get back on course? I cant just turn my body until I'm on the right bearing anymore, because 236 degree's from where i am now, isnt the same as 236 degree's from where I was.

Pic of markings on the side of compass

Do you have a known visual on your start point? If so, shoot a back azimuth to it. If it's not 56 degrees, you'be able to tell if you drifted left or right. You can then take a 90 degree turn (close enough) from said location to bring yourself back on you correct path of travel(Terrain permitting),shooting a a back azimuth every so often until it reads 56 degrees from start point. Once on point, continue on you 236 degree route. Wish I knew more about your terrain. Flat desert(plant a known start point)i.e. flag/stack of rocks/ etc, etc. Deep woods, ( constant compass check), as so forth.
Hope this answers your question.

I'm use to standard measurements before I was in the military, now I really enjoy the ease of use of metric.

I spent a day watching compass videos on youtube. Awesome stuff.

damnthathurt - Do you have a known visual on your start point? If so, shoot a back azimuth to it. If it"s not 56 degrees, you"be able to tell if you drifted left or right. You can then take a 90 degree turn (close enough) from said location to bring yourself back on you correct path of travel(Terrain permitting),shooting a a back azimuth every so often until it reads 56 degrees from start point. Once on point, continue on you 236 degree route. Wish I knew more about your terrain. Flat desert(plant a known start point)i.e. flag/stack of rocks/ etc, etc. Deep woods, ( constant compass check), as so forth.
Hope this answers your question.

thx..

this is hypothetical..but i'm thinking i'd be far enough from starting spot to not have visual on it, so back azimuth would be useless.

 

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DougWilson - I spent a day watching compass videos on youtube. Awesome stuff.

i've spent weeks watching different vids.. everything from azimuth, to triangulating your "unknown" position, to how to read conture/topographical maps, to using things like "handrails" and shooting bearing off course on purpose to account for your natural drift, so you can make a right or left turn to get to your intended target, to accounting for declination, to navigating by a shadow stick, using your watch to find north, to solar and star nav..theres tons of cool shit to learn.

learn military grid shit is cool as fuck too. you can pin point a location down to 10 meter square..(maybe even 5 meter square).. a meter is like 3.26 yards...so you're talking pinpointing a location on a map down to 30sq feet or so.. good to know if you need rescue... or to bomb someone

damnthathurt - I'm use to standard measurements before I was in the military, now I really enjoy the ease of use of metric.

so, you would rather use metric, given the choice?

do you have a good sense of meteric distance, or do you just know something is "x" km, and using range beads/pace count know you are "y" away?

do you also use a watch and know you km times on various terrains (so you can judge distance as a measure of time)?

hurt - btw... fuck using a lensatic - lol.. cant believe thats the military standard compass.

with a compass like mine, no need for protractors and shit (unless i want to get grid coordinates for shits and giggles.).. check out compass vids on youtube.. you dont even have to orient the map, you move the bezel ring to line up with grid lines and thats you're 360 protractor.

 

I have to use Waze to get anywhere that I go anywhere except work and back home...so, not me...

ryanJ -


I have to use Waze to get anywhere that I go anywhere except work and back home...so, not me...

tough to use sat nav/gps in thick tree cover..or if your batteries die

What videos have you liked?

MrChainBlueLightning -

What videos have you liked?

here's the ones i saved.. some are precusors to others..like telling time w/o watch, so i can fgure when sun is highest to find  latitude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EadSo1fuRh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ircLt-qvl3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3l49zQREcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y5PO4hlM5A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMXEuFAhse4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peu7uMp0cVU&t=669s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf3_SHEebNQ&t=208s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18wgB8352sQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cF0ovA3FtY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O8DmkAC2wI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP8XG-xQ2zg

https://education.usgs.gov/lessons/compass.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2l8drPfwvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1smJbkTIBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhaaIG7qpNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__yZaFLKnSc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNtGOM0l-nw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR8EQ0DWpPw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CycmCFb-6VU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYLxZ_F7DEw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qstBRB8Og18

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Download-Complete-USGS-Topo-Maps-for-Free/

https://store.usgs.gov/b2c_usgs/usgs/maplocator/(ctype=areaDetails&xcm=r3standardpitrex_prd&carea=%24ROOT&layout=6_1_61_48&uiarea=2)/.do

https://metttc.com/landnav/terrain-features/

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/land_navigation_map_reading/identify-major-minor-terr.shtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWLZKmPU17M

http://sciencing.com/calculate-suns-declination-6904335.html

http://www.pveducation.org/pvcdrom/properties-of-sunlight/declination-angle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVup1X_Nbrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MEynCUua-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HonFxihqstU

http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/manual/mapcompass3.shtml

https://www.maptools.com/product/RulerSlope24


 

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another useful link

http://www.map-reading.com/appendc.php

Also - search for the free pdf version of Be Expert with Map and Compass

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Metric. Now that I am underemployed, I play a lot of golf. By changing yards to meters it helps me visualize distance better. Same thing on car odometer. More you function in it the better.  

Plus coming New World Order and stuff 

The sun sets in the West i believe. From there, I can figure out the North, South and East.