Who should I vote for?
Rand Paul. But that ship has sailed, I'm afraid. 
Trump let Kaitlyn Jenner pee in his building and wants to create nobs and cut taxes.
There you go 
Richard Pryor
I don't buy this claim. If you support socialist/welfare/socially liberal policies, whatever you want to call them, you cannot be fiscally conservative, if that means less taxes/spending. Those programs cost a ton of money, which necessitates a lot of taxes.
AVClub - Rand Paul. But that ship has sailed, I'm afraid.Haha yes.
AnotherTMAguy -RevolutionWho should I vote for?
AlbertEinstein - I don't buy this claim. If you support socialist/welfare/socially liberal policies, whatever you want to call them, you cannot be fiscally conservative, if that means less taxes/spending. Those programs cost a ton of money, which necessitates a lot of taxes.People can do wtf they want but I shouldn't be forced (nor should the government) to pay for the shit they want to do.
AlbertEinstein - I don't buy this claim. If you support socialist/welfare/socially liberal policies, whatever you want to call them, you cannot be fiscally conservative, if that means less taxes/spending. Those programs cost a ton of money, which necessitates a lot of taxes.
I don't care if you're transexual, gay, want an abortion, interracial marriage, just don't ask me to pay for it.
That would be more like classical liberalism, which would be libertarian if the Libertarian party weren't a walking joke. Social liberalism, aka just liberalism, is a perversion of the concept of real (aka classical) liberalism. Liberal just means free. Liberty, liberal, libertarian all have the same origins in Latin. It's a really creepy Orwellian inversion of language since social liberals are really totalitarians. They talk about "rights" all the time, but they always mean privileges they want to grant. They have no clue about the concept of real rights, which they always want to take away. They're about as anti-freedom as it gets, but it's masked because it's a creeping totalitarianism. "We don't want to ban guns. We just want common sense gun control."
War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength.
camal - Trump let Kaitlyn Jenner pee in his building and wants to create nobs and cut taxes.Wait, isn't creating knobs in direct juxtaposition to the Kaitlyn Jenner agenda?
There you go
AVClub - Rand Paul. But that ship has sailed, I'm afraid.First post nails it. There is no fiscal conservative left. Trump would be better than hillary probably but still wont be good
"If you support socialist/welfare/socially liberal policies, whatever you want to call them, you cannot be fiscally conservative"
Socially liberal != socialist. In favor of social liberties, not socialist policies. Literally has nothing at all to do with welfare or socialist programs. Government shouldn't be playing favorites in terms of race, religion, sexuality, gender, consumption - that kind of thing.
Wanting government to place limits on freedoms to prevent perceived potential damage to society - illegalize drugs, promote the nuclear family, gay is not OK - that's socially conservative. & also implies little to nothing about your position on welfare/socialist programs.
"Use salt liberally" does not mean "Petition government to pay for your/everybody's salt."
AnotherTMAguy -Do you want the liberals to take a stranglehold on the Supreme Court and make liberal policy the law of the land? Do you like the liberal government in California? If so, vote Hillary. If not, vote Trump.Who should I vote for?
I feel like this election more than any I remember is not really about the candidates. It's more about whether or not you believe Americans actually have any say in government.
Why was Trump so unpopular with key members of his own party even after becoming the candidate? Is it because big gov members of Rep and Dem were told not to support the loose cannon by their Federal Reserve overlords?
Doesn't Hillary seem like the ultimate big government candidate?
Trump's a douche but if you hope Americans maintain any of what's left of their freedom then I think you gotta vote Trump.
Maybe I'm just paranoid but I don't think the buck stops at the Whitehouse.
Jack Kinghoff -camal - Trump let Kaitlyn Jenner pee in his building and wants to create nobs and cut taxes.Wait, isn't creating knobs in direct juxtaposition to the Kaitlyn Jenner agenda?
There you go
Are you discriminating against females who identify as male? The addadicktome procedure is just as important as the chopadickoffme procedure, imo.
Lots of VTFU on this thread. I like to see libertarian interest.
AlbertEinstein - I don't buy this claim. If you support socialist/welfare/socially liberal policies, whatever you want to call them, you cannot be fiscally conservative, if that means less taxes/spending. Those programs cost a ton of money, which necessitates a lot of taxes.Gay marriage and legalizing marijuana costs a ton of money?
AVClub - Rand Paul. But that ship has sailed, I'm afraid.Yup
AVClub - Rand Paul. But that ship has sailed, I'm afraid.This. I am still sad about this.