Assuming Blu-ray wins - question

Would (could?) Sony block M$ from using Blu-ray as its desired delivery system in Xbox 3?

Wasn't my question Genius.

I think they might do that. The Toshiba analogy doesn't apply, Toshiba never had a game console they were trying to push.

DLondo (again) -Wasn't my question Genius. Please keep your dumb posts to your own WoW threads.

They could. The question is whether Blu-ray becomes such a ubiquitous storage standard (like CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, etc.) that a court would consider it anticompetitive to block MS from using it.

The takeup for Blu-ray has sucked ass so far (same for HD-DVD) in natural market terms, meaning not counting PS3 purchases as free-market Blu-ray adoption by choice. Demand for Blu-ray and HD-DVD both standalone drives and as players has been very low.

I dont think it will be as widespread a standard in regards to storage, where MS will feel a need to adopt it, nor where Sony blocking them from using it would be considered anti-competitive.

As a storage format (not video format per se), HD-DVD has a far better chance of widespread adoption due to the much cheaper overall cost structure from hardware to pressed discs.

This is all pretty far down the road, i mean we're talking like 2009-2010. Who the hell knows what will be around then.

the future is digital distribution not blue ray or HD-DVD.Its coming sooner then you might think.

No. Sony is not the only company involved in Blu-Ray technology, and somehow I doubt the others would be on board with denying their tech to a massive company like Microsoft. Not to mention the movie studios would not be happy with it.

Microsoft will never use the BluRay, even if it means their next console can't play new movie releases.



The Gamecube disc was like a small DVD, but it wasn't a DVD. Microsoft can put their next console's games on an HDDVD or a disc that's like BluRay, but why would they pay Sony?

thanks guys...sounds like this is something to look at in 2-3 years time then...(if ever!)

MS has stated flat-out that they will release a Blu-Ray add-on for 360 if that format wins out.

He's saying, will sony block them from doing so, or from incorporating blu-ray into the spec for the next Xbox...

I could've swore that the main reason why Blue-Ray would fail is because of the fact that 8 years from now,all regular televisions and basic cable would become obsolete and everyone in the United States MUST switch to HD.

Not trying to sound stupid but my question is,with the coming age being High Definition,and Blue-Ray has nothing to do with HD-DVD as well as the PS3,does this not mean that Blue Ray as well as PS3 Already has failed?

Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are both disc formats that have a ton of space on them. What that space is used for on both formats, right now, is High Definition video (any video with a resolution of 1280 x 720 or higher).

"The Gamecube disc was like a small DVD, but it wasn't a DVD."

Yes, it was a mini dvd, you can even get DVDrom drives with the right firmware to run them in a PC

"Yes, it was a mini dvd, you can even get DVDrom drives with the right firmware to run them in a PC"





And there's a player that runs both BluRay and HD-DVD discs. But they're not the same disc, and a GameCube disc is not a mini DVD. Its barcode is unreadable by most DVD drives and the encoding is different. Nintendo did not have to pay licensing fees like everyone else who uses DVD technology, which was my entire point about Microsoft not having to pay BluRay licensing fees.

"Microsoft can put their next console's games on an HDDVD or a disc that's like BluRay, but why would they pay Sony?"

Same reason Sony is pushing Blu-Ray, whose main selling point is HD movies using Microsoft's VC-1 compression (for which every studio must pay MS a licensing fee).

govnor. when the xbox3 comes out. it could easyily have a bluray drive in it.

sony cant stop that. the BDA can. sony devloped the bluray. yes but if all the other companies which have various patents in the BDA want to include a drive into the xbox3. then yes it is possible. ofcourse microsoft would have to pay a licence fee for it, but it is possible.

Microsoft is going to deploy all of it's OEM software in HD-DVD format only. So everyone will be fucked.

I don't know about the States but here in Australia and from what I heard Europe as well, it's pretty much over for the HD DVD format. Our biggest electronics chain JB HiFi only stock BluRay format, most High Def components that the other stores stock are Blu Ray. I've read on news portals that the majority of movie studios are turning to Blu Ray too, as well as the porn industry. It's not over yet though, and we'll probably know by late this year who will be the dominant format.

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