I know you have been doing bjj for a whole 3 weeks now and rolled with a bluebelt but please refrain from giving instruction to the person who has only been there 2 days.
Please refer him to your instructor or a more experienced person.
That is all.
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Im sorry... I will stop ;)
I wasn't talking about a blue Rumble guys who have been there for no more than a month or so.
What do you do at your school if the guy was a blue belt but hasn't trained for a year? Can he help?
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bgyuk just saved this thread.
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They give bluebelts in a month now?
I will give an example. New guy at our school tries to do a triangle on this guy while rolling. After they stop a guy who has been doing bjj for about a month calls him over and tries to show what he did wrong in not getting the triangle.
He then proceeds to show him everything wrong and I mean really wrong. He wasn't asked and by the way he was teaching him he just used the opportunity to show off he knew more than the other guy eventhough he knows nothing.
BTW thanks for the Bum pic.
Your officially an idiot. If you notice something technically wrong about what your partner is doing, point it out and help, if your wrong, you learned, if your right, they learned. Thats how you get better, not by being a cocky jerk who thinks their white belt is somehow superior to anyone elses.
Learn from everyone you roll with
Artesuave, I know what you mean. We get a lot of Marines who try to show us their superior green-belt instructor skills. I save my gogoplatas for those guys. One guy in particular recently joined who informed us he planned to fight pro in the next couple of months, except he had zero training. Ever. This was his first day of jiu jitsu. Skip to now (1 month later) and he's learned nothing, but that doesn't stop him from making sure his training partner fucks up every drill they do.
I have a fight in three weeks and went to my first gi brazilian jui jitsu class last night, i didnt know what the fuck they were talking about drilling elbow escapes on the ground without a partner, let alone any other techniques for bridging, etc...
Doesn't change the fact that i still am more than capable of holding my own standing up, or i could have tossed them through the wall, slammed them repeatedly, and punched them in the face out of their guard.
BJJ isn't fighting, nor is it a requirement to fight, although i obviously respect it enough to begin training and plan to continue.
Don't judge someones ability to compete on the part of their game you see, is all i'm saying... I felt like i was being judged harshly that way last night, as well, and it left an extraordinarily sour taste in my mouth with the experience.
wow @ that culo salvaging this thread.
"If you notice something technically wrong about what your partner is doing, point it out and help"
LOL That's the point doing jiu-jitsu for a month does not qualify you to know when something is technically wrong.
Just because you know the 1 2 3 steps of something does not mean you know how to do it technically.
Because your incapable of learning a single submission, sweep, transition, takedown, even something as simple as a grip ? in a month, doesn't mean everyone else is.
Again, if you see something wrong, help them the best you can, and if it still doesn't work, address an instructor, obvisouly.
Do what you can to help everyone you roll with, if it can be more than just a body to practice on, the better for your partner. Your complaining about something you saw someone else do to someone else. Instead of bitching on the internet, why didn't you walk over, freshen your memory on the technique and show them, since you had all the time in the world to realize he showed him every single step to the triangle incorrectly.
Remember buddy, the best way to learn, is to teach.
Im gonna agree with Art on this one. I think its a bad sign when everyone is trying to coach each other through stuff when most of the guys dont know shit yet.
And theres a big difference between telling someone "no no the other leg" and trying to coach them step by step when the move is new to you as well. Referring them to the instructor or his assistant is the best idea.
Plus the less talking going on the better imo.
I see what both sides are saying.
I'm pretty sure art never said don't start teaching Gogo's to your partner as a white belt, he said don't start correcting them.
There is a singificant difference between complex submissions, and moving your legs, pulling back to guard, how you place your arm around the head, where you put your partners wrists, etc, while drilling technique.
He made a post with an asshole tone based purely on a blanket statement of don't help your training partners if your new.
Last i checked, the new guys rolled together, not all new guys started the same day, one of those days, each could have learned something different, the other didnt.
You don't learn if your not corrected, very, very few gyms have enough instructors to privately coach you all day long. None, acctually.
"I have a fight in three weeks and went to my first gi brazilian jui jitsu class last night."
We had a guy just like you who was going to fight in an mma match and was doing some no-gi with us.
While the instructor was up front some guy decides to show him a technique if someone was in his guard throwing punches eventhough this person has never fought in an mma fight in his life.
I had just finished rolling so I was taking a break and saw it.I had never seen that technique before so I refrained from comment.
They drilled it several times and they both thought it was good. I guess the inst. noticed them from the front and asked them to show it to him well they kinda missed the whole purpose of techinque.
This was a guy who was going to step in a ring i think the following week. Not some bjj tournie where if he fucks up its no big deal. He was going into a fight where if he fucks up he could end up in a hospital.
But the other guy thought he was all badass because he was showing a move to a pro fighter.
nice ass