Bas O2 Trainer??Just fancy snorkel training?

http://www.roguecanada.ca/o2-trainer.php#gear-and-specs

Have any of you seen this or tried it? It seems like the same idea as snorkel training which if I'm not mistaken was debunked long ago as a legitimate training method???

Is this the same thing as Training Mask?

There was a thread on UG (I think Hillary started it) where he bashed the shit out of it and developers of Training Mask product couldn't really come up with a good response outside of referencing to some studies which didn't really correlate with Training mask and it's said effects on cardiovascular fitness.

"hypoxia training is bro science" <---Agree with this.

TAKU 

These types of things are especially dumb given the fact that anyone who knows anything about altitude training knows that it is preferable to "train low-sleep high." That's why people who train for high altitude mountaineering will often rent/buy an altitude tent TO SLEEP IN for several weeks before an expedition, and don't buy crap like the training mask.

Trying to "train high" inhibits your performance gains and is just stupid.

These comments are why I love this place and it's people. I agree 110% I have plenty of friends that argue with me. When I ask them how the fuck it actually helps and they hear themselves give shitty answers it then turns into, "well, I just like it." Phone Post

"well, I just like it." <---This is the real reason most people really do the stuff they do.

For me training is not automatically supposed to be fun. Hard work is, well... HARD. most people opt against real hard work and just do stuff they like, all the time.

TAKU

KU

Taku - 


"well, I just like it." <---This is the real reason most people really do the stuff they do.



For me training is not automatically supposed to be fun. Hard work is, well... HARD. most people opt against real hard work and just do stuff they like, all the time.



TAKU



KU


Disagree.

It's super enjoyable albeit hard, but I see it as you shouldn't be doing it if you don;t enjoy it. ;-)

Supposedly Bas did have some scientific studies done on his device, but I imagine actually doing your cardio is more important than the device messing with your breathing.

Leigh,

You are already awesome...So mission accomplished.

TAKU

Leigh - 

I don't enjoy training. I enjoy being awesome Phone Post


There's a great shirt from tito's punishment line

"training sucks... but winning is EVERYTHING"