I’ve read very very few comics past the early 90’s crash, but I remember everyone raving about how great they were around the time the first X-Men movie dropped up until a few years ago when they started going gay.
Yeah. It shows the level of stupidity and immaturity of the writers.
X-Men have always been a metaphor for the civil rights movement - but of note, Storm was the only black one for a while. The first five from the 60’s were white, of course. Adding Storm and the other new ones, Thunderbird was Native American, Banshee was Irish, Nightcrawler was German, Colossus was German, Sunfire was Japanese, and Wolverine was Canadian. A very broad group, to be sure. That’s a smart way to do it. Lots of different folks all supporting the same cause, even if they weren’t necessarily the target themselves.
But when 2007-2010 hit and X-Men became a metaphor for the gay movement (complete with several diseases all supposed to mimic AIDS), they went ahead and made a shitload of straight characters gay or bi to support it. That was dumb as shit. It didn’t add a ton of gay readers, and all the older readers who were used to Iceman, Beast, Wolverine, etc. all being straight got pissed, and rightly so.
Dude, dont tell me they made OG wolverine gay.
Russian
LOL, fuck me, I know that, I was typing while ordering ice cream, godammit. I got the line for Kurt and Peter mixed up.
Pyotr Rasputin is not exactly a Germanic name, obviously
My take. Maybe I’m completely off but;
Almost all the image titles in the early/mid 90s were bad. Real bad. But I think they paved the way for a real golden age of comics. Image was all about the artists, but somehow in there the writers carved some space for themselves and we had a great era of writer driven comics writing their own stories with their own characters. Preacher, Y the Last Man, a bunch of Alan Moore stuff etc.
Marvel and DC picked up on this and started to give their talent way more reign. Writers could finally write their own stories in small 6-10 issue isolated stories without having to worry about the bigger picture or try to work around the continuity of a bunch of different ongoing storylines. -Look at how many great Batman stories were written during that time period.
It all became a big cycle around 2008. They couldn’t help themselves and devolved back into the era of massive multi book storylines and writers having to advance large storylines. The quality suffered big time.
Respect Beast (Fox X-men)
Legend
- X-Men: The Last Stand
- X-Men: First Class
- X-Men: Days of Future Past
- X-Men: Apocalypse
- Deadpool 2
- X-Men: Dark Phoenix
#Respect Dr. Henry Philip “Hank” McCoy
#Original Timeline
Not all of us can fit in so easily, you don’t shed on the furniture
When Hank met Charles he was a scientist and closeted Mutant until he is accidentally outed by Xavier. After the Hellfire club (a cult of evil mutants bent on world domination) were defeated Hank joined Charles’s X-men. Later in 1965, when Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters opened, Dr. Hank McCoy took up a teaching position. During that year, however, America assumed a direct military role in the Vietnam War. As the war escalated throughout the mid-late 1960s, many students and staff at the school were drafted into the military, and ultimately, the school was unable to function. By the early 1970s, Xavier’s school was defunct, and Xavier reverted his mansion to a private residence. McCoy resided at the mansion, helping Xavier tend to the affairs of his estate. During this time, McCoy developed a serum that not only regulated his mutation but enabled Xavier to walk again. Years later but before the development of the Mutant Cure, Hank had stopped taking the serum repressing his mutation and began working in a government position as the Secretary of Mutant Affairs.
Strength
- Hangs upside down from his feet ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Lifted Eric by his throat ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Sinks his claws into Azazel ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Throws Azazel off a ledge ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Knocks out Azazel ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Casually hangs upside down by his feet ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- Tackles three mutants to the ground ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- One-shots serval of Magneto’s fodder mutants ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
Speed/Agility
- Does a backflip ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Laps Charles during their race ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Stops Azazel from attacking Havoc and dodged one of his attacks ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Lands on his feet after dropping off of the ceiling he was hanging on by his feet ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- Spins off a pole kicking a mutant and launching himself into several more knocking them down as well ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- Does a flip off of a building ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- Crosses several feet with a standing broad jump ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
- Takes Magneto by surprise injecting him with the mutant cure ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
Durability
- Takes a kick from Azazel ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Azazel tackles him off a ledge ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Gets thrown by Magneto ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Jumps off a building and lands completely fine ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
Intelligence/Skill
- Graduated from Harvard at the age of 15 ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Designed Cerebro which enhances Charles already impressive psychic abilities ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Makes a serum that temporarily fixes his deformity. However, the side effects kick in making him blue and covered with hair ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Before he altered the formula to work on Mystique as well but it is unclear if it would have also failed with her ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Designs and expertly flies the Black Bird ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Makes Havoc’s suit To help him focus his power better ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Designs a suit for Banshee to help him fly ^(X-Men: First Class)
- Was elected Secretary of Mutant Affairs in the United States Government and has gained the respect of the President to the point where he’s begged not to resign ^(X-Men: The Last Stand)
Revised Timeline
I probably shouldn’t be asking this sort of thing, but in the future, do I make it?
First Class happened and Wolverine came with his time travel shenanigans. Hank continued using his serum to maintain human form since the events of 1973. He became a teacher at Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngsters when it reopened In 1983 and eventually became its headmaster after Charles retired.
Ps: All X-Men: First Class feats also apply to this version of Beast as well
Strength
- Throws Wolverine several feet twice ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Tackles Magneto and almost drown him before he is restrained ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Bites the tubes off of a Sentinel’s neck ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Punched Scott out of the brick wall he was stuck in ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Caught a car that was thrown at him by Storm and threw it back ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Swung a slab of concrete a Psylocke ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Phased Psylocke with a kick to the face and threw her onto the ceiling of a building ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Tackles Cyclops into a car ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
- Tossed around several aliens like ragdolls for reference one was able to crumple a large turret by throwing a guy at it ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
Speed/Agility
- Jumps off a wall and swings off of a hanging light to tackle Wolverine ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Jumps several feet and catches a chandelier with his feet ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Does a somersault while holding Magneto ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- He and Logan avoid a sentinels gunfire ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Avoided Psylocke’s sword swipes ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Avoids Psylocke’s whip ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Jumped off of debris to get above Apocalypse ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Parkours over some aliens while in a train ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
- Flips clean over an alien ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
Durability
- Gets Punched by Wolverine ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- A Sentinel throws him into a car ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Was thrown through a concrete wall by Psylocke ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Survived being strangled by Psylocke long enough for him to escape ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Was thrown into a car by Apocalypse ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- Gets launched by an impressive kick from Cyclops ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
- [Limit] Was knocked out when Jessica Chastain slammed him onto the floor of a train ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
Intelligence/Skill
- He can shift in between looking like a normal guy and looking all blue and shit at will because of a serum he made and regularly takes ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- This same serum also gives Charles back the use of his legs but taking too much of it dampens his mental abilities ^(X-Men: Days of Future Past)
- Made Scott a pair of glasses to contain his lasers ^(X-Men: Apocalypse)
- The Black Bird (which he designed) can reach escape velocity and works fine while in space ^(X-Men: Dark Phoenix)
- Closes a door carefully enough to make sure Deadpool doesn’t notice him ^(Deadpool 2)
616 main comic version:
Respect Beast (Marvel, 616)
##“To paraphrase Shakespeare, dear lady, I fear that the danger lies not in the stars, but in ourselves”
– Beast
Table of Contents
I. Introduction
II. Strength
III. Speed
IV. Durability
V. Intelligence and Training
VI. Appendix
I. Introduction
A. Bio
Beast is Dr. Henry “Hank” McCoy, a mutant and a member of the X-Men and Avengers (at times). Hank manifested his mutant powers at birth and demonstrated a genius level intellect at a young age. Professor Xavier took quick note, and recruited Hank to be a member of his original X-Men. Hank took the code-name, Beast, embarked on a lifetime of superhuman adventures with the X-Men, related Mutants, and the superhuman community at large.
B. Powers
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Superhuman physiology–strength, agility, durability/healing, abnormally large and dextrous hands and feet; and at times, enhanced senses, claws, fangs, fur
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Superhuman Intelligence
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Note on Powers
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Over the years, Beast has undergone further mutations that have altered his appearance and powers to minor degrees (see VI. Appendix, A. Mutations). Through most of these mutations, Beast has maintained his superhuman strength, agility, and animal-like qualities.
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For a time between 1985-1990, Beast had greater strength than usual. He had contracted a disease that caused him to grow stronger at the price of his intelligence. Beast was eventually cured, but was now much stronger (maybe as much as a 70 tonner). Beast’s feats from this period will be marked “P” for “Peak.” levels.
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II. Strength
A. Lifting, Pushing, Pulling
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Breaks through the hull of a celestial ship and tears free a turret^^P
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Helps Mr. Fixit and Hercules bend apart omnium steel bars^^P
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Says he’s as almost strong as Attuma^^P (Note: Attuma is a super strong Atlantean)
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Trapped in a containment device, but Beast tears free
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Despite being pinned, throws a huge mutant straight into the air to crack the ceiling
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A super strong mutant throws a large rock, but Beast catches it and throws it away
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Hops down the stairs with one arm while carrying several pieces of luggage
B. Striking
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Gets picked up^^P by a demonic tractor and smashes it
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Punches out Frenzy^^P (Note: Frenzy is strong enough to topple buildings)
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Causes a miniature earthquake, and staggers a Brood-infested Ghost Rider
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Fight with Wolverine destroys walls and doors in the X-mansion
C. Limits
III. Speed
A. Movement and Attack
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Drops Prof. X and leaps to attack Danger and recovers in time to save Prof. X
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Moves quickly to save a friend from being electrocuted by a swinging cable
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Catches Bishop as he falls from an apartment; then avoids weapon fire and escapes a gas explosion
B. Reactions
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Death’s Head fires a rocket at an alien and he intercepts it in flight
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Saves Archangel from an explosion cause War, a mutant whose claps cause explosions; another example of War’s power
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Hawkeye mistakenly shoots an arrow at Beast, but Beast catches it with his toes
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Avoids missiles during Iron Man’s armor test, impressing Tony Stark
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Dodges Wolverine’s strikes, and Wolverine comments on his speed
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Avoids gunfire; on various occasions - 1,
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Iceman gets knocked from his ice slide, but Beast reacts quickly to save him
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Avoids several of a mutant’s energy attacks
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Quickly disarms the Constrictor, then catches a thrown knife
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One of Beasts comrades falls while climbing, but Beast reacts in time to save him
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While checking Juggernaut’s vital signs, Beast reacts to a surprise punch and avoids getting seriously hurt
C. Agility and Acrobatics
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Makes his way through a floating mine field that took out the rest of the Avengers
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Escapes a military compound by pin balling through the facility
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Has "acrobatic speed and dexterity that makes him virtually impossible to hit
D. Limits
IV. Durability and Healing
A. Blunt Impact
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Gets punched a long ways by Atlas/Power Man and later comes back looking fine
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Takes a hit from Danger and continues to fight (Note: Danger is capable of going toe-to-toe with Colossus and Emma Frost)
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Gets hit by Frenzy, but Beast is back on his feet a page later where Frenzy shows her strength by toppling a building
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Smashed into the wall by a Brood-infested Ghost Rider, but he’s on his feet shortly
B. Energy and Other
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An ally hits Beast with electricity to take out an enemy, and Beast withstands the attack
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His feral state seems to offer him some form of defense to psionic attacks
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Withstands an optic blast from Cyclops that crumples the wall
C. Endurance and Healing
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Slashed in the back by Silver Samurai; this takes him out for a few pages, but he seems okay afterwards
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Withstands attacks from Dark Beast and recovers in time to take him out
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Withstands a gunshot wound and heals quickly; recovers from a rifle bullet
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Slashed by Wolverine, but he heals
D. Limits
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War World Hulk hits Beast, KO’ing him until he got medical attention from Elixir
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Omega Sentinel throws Beast into a wall which KO’s him for a bit
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Injured by Harpoon’s energy spear, which affects him for a time
V. Intelligence and Training
Beast is one of the smartest people on 616 Marvel Earth. His areas of focus are genetics, biochemistry, and medicine. He also has considerable combat training and experience, but he now primarily has a non-combat role with the X-Men.
A. Biochemistry and Medicine
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On the fly, figures out a way to disable the Phalanx, disease-like techno-organic organism, for a while
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Discovers an “extinction trigger” in the human genome that will “turn the species off”
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Performs brain surgery on the Red Skull to remove Charles Xavier’s brain
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Analyzes the worldwide loss of mutant powers and deduces that the High Evolutionary is the cause
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Analyzes SHIELD pathology reports on a drug and identifies its mutagenic qualities
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Identifies that a duplicate is a Skrull and creates a chemical to revert it; later uses a version of the chemical in combat against the Skrulls
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Shows his understanding of mutation while researching a cure for the M-Day event
B. Physics, Engineering, Technology
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Says the X-Men have the second most sophisticated lab in the country after Reed Richards
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Builds a time travel device; later travels into the past to take the young X-Men to the future
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Contemplates building a “Phoenix Gun,” that in the future, Wolverine uses to destroy Ego the Living Planet (controlled by Dr. Doom’s consciousness) (Note: it’s unclear how long it took Beast to make the gun, and using it killed Wolverine)
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Does complicated programming of a Celestial Ship to save the X-Men
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Quickly hacks the programming of hostile robots and makes them dance
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Built a handheld magnetic device that pins his enemies to the ceiling
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Helps design and build
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Built a containment cell for the Juggernaut although Cassandra Nova was able to break free
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Designs and builds a technologically advanced school (Note: there school had some problems initially)
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Designs and builds the X-Men a new jet with his younger self called the Dove
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Has image inducer that he can transform his image with
C. Combat
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Gets the better of Spiral before she teleports (Note: Spiral RT
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Beast and Wolverine fight the Imperial Shiar Guard and do well, but get taken down by Gladiator
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Takes down a SHIELD security robot with the help of Dark Beast
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Executes a combat maneuver with Nightcrawler to take out Colossus and Psylocke
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Exploits pressure points and nerve centers against an opponent
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Notable Fights
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Manages to gain the upper hand over Kraven after a close battle
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Gets stabbed by Azazel and then goes feral and fights Nightcrawler
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Early Beast fights Iron Man (Note: while the initial part of the fight happened, at some point Beast was manipulated to see a vision and he did not actually kill Iron Man)
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Fights Sabretooth but seems to lose and only narrowly manages to save his girlfriend
D. Limits
Despite his intelligence Beast is not always wise.
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Fails to hack a Fury android in time, which leaves him at its mercy
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Transforms himself into more animalistic form, and later discovers its permanent
VI. Appendix
A. Different Mutations
Beast has undergone several physical transformations during his life. Beast usually has the same powers basic powers in his different transformations, but occasionally experiences some subtle changes.
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Human form: He had abnormally large hands and feet, but otherwise, he was fairly normal looking. He had superhuman strength, agility, durability, etc. Beast did return to his human form briefly in mid-80s.
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Beast form (grey): When Hank discovered the chemical cause of mutation, he took it and transformed himself. His physicals seemed to get a slight boost. Most notably, he gained a fairly impressive healing factor. He was also more feral and prone to bestial rages.
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Beast form (blue): Perhaps his most classic look. In this form, he maintained his personality and intelligence. However, his healing factor was reduced. For a short period (maybe 1987-1990), Beast got much stronger, potentially as high as 70 tons, but he seemed to return to a lower level of strength later.
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Cat form: After Beast was injured, Sage affected his mutation to save him, altering his form. In this form, Hank once again had stronger animalistic instincts and he could go feral. Physically, his strength and speed remained about same (lower than his brief peak), but he had claws which he used in combat.
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Gorilla-Bat form: No major changes except for his appearance. However, he did suffer some initial health problems as his body experienced difficulties with his continuing transformations.
So i will read through this after my comment but couldn’t someone just shoot Cyclops, Havik, Storm , Beast, etc, and kill them? X-men that don’t heal or have the extra sense that something is about to happen.
I hear he sucks cock
Until he is blue
So after reading the 3 comments above mine i have confirmed pendejopresident is a Virgin.
I think of BEAST like Donatello(TMNT) definitely a solid member to have on a team!
He just won Wolverine at a bad guy get together and cut his head off, and is now using him for to do bad shit. He’s doing all kind of weird shit on Krakoa
Oh you guys ain’t wrong lol