Big oil-Strike is imminent

It's looking like a bunch of refineries in the Houston area will be going on strike within the next couple days. BP had already announced they are freezing salaries this year and let a lot of salary employees go. Anybody on this forum been on strike(union) ? Ama/tma. Phone Post 3.0

They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.

GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
Who didn't save money? The hourly employees? Phone Post 3.0

GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
I wasn't clear on my original post. The hourly Union employees will be going on strike. The company's are trying to cut wages, jobs, benefits etc. Sorry I wasn't clear. Phone Post 3.0

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GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
<span class="User-263187" id="userPost52323628">I wasn't clear on my original post. The hourly Union employees will be going on strike. The company's are trying to cut wages, jobs, benefits etc. Sorry I wasn't clear. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

From my understanding, the strike is not over cut wages.  The cnbc article stated that the United Steel Workers union which accounts for 2/3rds of refineries are asking for double the pay increase they got last contract.  I believe they are asking for a 6% per year anual raise for the next three years.  I find this way out of line considering the standard raise is 3%.  Inflation is less than 2% now with industry having huge layoffs in the oil side.  If everyone was making big money and inflation was on the rise, I could see it but this is making them look like the UAW.

 

Soup and Beer -
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GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
<span class="User-263187" id="userPost52323628">I wasn't clear on my original post. The hourly Union employees will be going on strike. The company's are trying to cut wages, jobs, benefits etc. Sorry I wasn't clear. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

From my understanding, the strike is not over cut wages.  The cnbc article stated that the United Steel Workers union which accounts for 2/3rds of refineries are asking for double the pay increase they got last contract.  I believe they are asking for a 6% per year anual raise for the next three years.  I find this way out of line considering the standard raise is 3%.  Inflation is less than 2% now with industry having huge layoffs in the oil side.  If everyone was making big money and inflation was on the rise, I could see it but this is making them look like the UAW.


 

Contracts last three years. The last two were 3,2,2 for where I am at. You are probably seeing the news for the international but 6 percent seems absurd unless it's for the whole 3 years. Locally in the Houston area they are trying to get rid of the maintenance employees(pipe fitters, welders, electricians etc) and go to contractors. Phone Post 3.0

Damn. I got a .5% raise over the last 5 years. Phone Post 3.0

Production is dropping off which means profits will drop, I can't believe they are asking for double the raises.

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Soup and Beer -
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GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
<span class="User-263187" id="userPost52323628">I wasn't clear on my original post. The hourly Union employees will be going on strike. The company's are trying to cut wages, jobs, benefits etc. Sorry I wasn't clear. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

From my understanding, the strike is not over cut wages.  The cnbc article stated that the United Steel Workers union which accounts for 2/3rds of refineries are asking for double the pay increase they got last contract.  I believe they are asking for a 6% per year anual raise for the next three years.  I find this way out of line considering the standard raise is 3%.  Inflation is less than 2% now with industry having huge layoffs in the oil side.  If everyone was making big money and inflation was on the rise, I could see it but this is making them look like the UAW.

 

Contracts last three years. The last two were 3,2,2 for where I am at. You are probably seeing the news for the international but 6 percent seems absurd unless it's for the whole 3 years. Locally in the Houston area they are trying to get rid of the maintenance employees(pipe fitters, welders, electricians etc) and go to contractors. Phone Post 3.0

It won't work.  Our refinery tried to switch to contract labor for operations and some maintenance.  They failed miserably. 

I believe the contract at our refinery for Metal Trades was 2,3,3.  Last I heard they were also going to ask for 6% but this was before the oil crash.  I don't think anything has been decided on that for us.

Barbasol OOTFFTT - Production is dropping off which means profits will drop, I can't believe they are asking for double the raises.
The profit margin is insane.. Literally a drop in a bucket to pay those wages Phone Post 3.0

Soup and Beer -
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Soup and Beer -
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GucciGucciGucci - They didn't save money when they were raking in the big bucks ?

I'd be more supportive if they were the poor bastards working at Walmart making shit wages and hardly any benefits.
<span class="User-263187" id="userPost52323628">I wasn't clear on my original post. The hourly Union employees will be going on strike. The company's are trying to cut wages, jobs, benefits etc. Sorry I wasn't clear. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

From my understanding, the strike is not over cut wages.  The cnbc article stated that the United Steel Workers union which accounts for 2/3rds of refineries are asking for double the pay increase they got last contract.  I believe they are asking for a 6% per year anual raise for the next three years.  I find this way out of line considering the standard raise is 3%.  Inflation is less than 2% now with industry having huge layoffs in the oil side.  If everyone was making big money and inflation was on the rise, I could see it but this is making them look like the UAW.

 

Contracts last three years. The last two were 3,2,2 for where I am at. You are probably seeing the news for the international but 6 percent seems absurd unless it's for the whole 3 years. Locally in the Houston area they are trying to get rid of the maintenance employees(pipe fitters, welders, electricians etc) and go to contractors. Phone Post 3.0

It won't work.  Our refinery tried to switch to contract labor for operations and some maintenance.  They failed miserably. 


I believe the contract at our refinery for Metal Trades was 2,3,3.  Last I heard they were also going to ask for 6% but this was before the oil crash.  I don't think anything has been decided on that for us.

It definitely takes contractors several times longer to do the same job as our in house maintenance Phone Post 3.0

Barbasol OOTFFTT - Production is dropping off which means profits will drop, I can't believe they are asking for double the raises.


Well, the supply (oil) side is down but refineries are making good money.  We profit more from volume sold since the margins are the same whether oil is high or low.  Low oil prices obviously mean higher demand for petrol and jet fuel, but this will be somewhat offset by layoffs on the supply side.  The net effect is positive right now though.  Even though I would benefit from a higher percentage increase, I feel it is not the right time for that.  Pay increases should follow inflation and it has been low these last few years.  Certainly nothing to justify 5-6% increase.

We're sorry!

I was really surprised BP announced salary freezes and let so many people go. I'm sure the people(salary) that were able to stay will still receive some bad ass bonuses. I know I don't want to go on strike though...seems miserable and it would suck not getting paid what I'm used to. Phone Post 3.0

DaveFu - We're sorry!
Lol... Watched that series a couple days ago. Phone Post 3.0

good for them

get it if you can

no one whines about the executives making absurd amounts of money but the ppl actually doing the work dont need to get paid.

lol @ the OG

D TRE - I was really surprised BP announced salary freezes and let so many people go. I'm sure the people(salary) that were able to stay will still receive some bad ass bonuses. I know I don't want to go on strike though...seems miserable and it would suck not getting paid what I'm used to. Phone Post 3.0


I would still be surprised if any strike occurs.  It's a different environment these days.  All you have to do is look out the window in the parking lot at all the $40,000 brand new trucks.  Most union workers (and people in general) are so far in debt they couldn't go a week without a paycheck.

gregbrady - good for them

get it if you can

no one whines about the executives making absurd amounts of money but the ppl actually doing the work dont need to get paid.

lol @ the OG
This... Somebody post the chart with the ceo vs worker pay rate. Phone Post 3.0

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gregbrady - good for them

get it if you can

no one whines about the executives making absurd amounts of money but the ppl actually doing the work dont need to get paid.

lol @ the OG
This... Somebody post the chart with the ceo vs worker pay rate. Phone Post 3.0


No argument here.  But in light of how the supply side of the industry is getting hit, I would be very happy to get 2-3% increase.  I can be bought off cheap.