BLM = Demonic African Cult

http://youtu.be/PuDuZnf10eA

MPA - 

The biggest news of the day is finding out that China has surpassed the USA as the largest Naval power in the world, but some cunts on here still are obssessed with festering racial tension among other Americans.

https://twitter.com/TheNatlInterest/status/1302045036117471232

Yes, let’s focus all our attention on a speedbump in a hypothetical future war, and ignore the active war on our streets.

bigJ6464 -

http://youtu.be/PuDuZnf10eA

Seemed appropriatewhen lil Jimmy says my wallets gone I still chuckle

Onikage -
MPA - 

The biggest news of the day is finding out that China has surpassed the USA as the largest Naval power in the world, but some cunts on here still are obssessed with festering racial tension among other Americans.

https://twitter.com/TheNatlInterest/status/1302045036117471232

Yes, let’s focus all our attention on a speedbump in a hypothetical future war, and ignore the active war on our streets.

No you cum stain, the enemy is the one trying to replace us as the Global Superpower, not American citizens. 

Stop acting like a pussy and man up, unless you are scared of the Chinese?

MPA - 
Onikage -
MPA - 

The biggest news of the day is finding out that China has surpassed the USA as the largest Naval power in the world, but some cunts on here still are obssessed with festering racial tension among other Americans.

https://twitter.com/TheNatlInterest/status/1302045036117471232

Yes, let’s focus all our attention on a speedbump in a hypothetical future war, and ignore the active war on our streets.

No you cum stain, the enemy is the one trying to replace us as the Global Superpower, not American citizens. 

Stop acting like a pussy and man up, unless you are scared of the Chinese?

Take your kindergarten-level geopolitics to another thread, captain autismo.

Agreed OP. VU..

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AngryGerbil - 

I follow a couple of Antifa whores on IG for research purposes (porpoises imo), and I've noticed a large satanic presence within that organization too. Lots of reversed pentagrams, goat heads, and various symbolism. 

Some even chain hashtag shit like #antifa #satanist lol, they are such dorks.

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Santanism is not Ifa. Some Satanists worship Satan. Others are atheists who are more about self-empowerment. Neither has anything to do with Ifa and the spiritual system associated with it

The point is globalists have been advancing and promoting anti-deist ideologies with a specific intent. Break down the moral fabric of society. Regardless of whether you believe in God or not, the writing is on the wall. They want to kill "God" and elevate themselves to divinity.

The point of this thread by OP was to show that some BLM founders practice Ifa. Somewhere along the way, another poster conflated Satansim with Ifa. Ifa isn’t Satansim, and that must be made clear in the context of this thread.

True, I wasn’t drawing a correlation, but they are correlated.

Both are being used to rebel against Christianity and Western civilization as a whole.

I think you’re making a false correlation between two different things. No-Christian religions should not all be thrown into the same kitchen sink and falsely associated with something they are not. Satanism has one agenda. Ifa has another. There are Satanists, Ifa practioners, and Christians within the ranks of BLM and Antifa.

If you’re worried about Christianity and Western Civ being attacked or “rebelled against,” there are lots of other real threats out there…starting with the fact that most Christians are ignorant of their religion’s full history …as well as the fact they pick and choose what scriptures to follow.

Of course, the elephant in the room with Christianity is the fact that it is more than likely one of the very tools the “antichrist” will use to facilitate his leadership (if, of course, you believe in such things like the antichrist).

They obviously aren’t the same thing, but serve the same purpose, which is to undermine Western cultural values and establish moral relativism.

Your explanations of religions being different is obvious and irrelevant. This isn’t a matter of religious freedom. It is moral subversion.

If you’re unable to recognize that, then you’ve already fallen victim to relativism.

You say they’re not the same thing, but you talked about witchcraft, paganism, demonism as if they are Ifa. That was your first mistake. You should admit your lack of knowledge in that space and understand that is why you and I are evening engaging.

Your second mistake is not recognizing there are tons Abrahamics (Christians, Muslims, Jews) within the ranks of BLM. Most of them would say their support of BLM represents what their faith teaches. By your own logic, Abrahamic faiths are being used to undermine western cultural values and establish moral relativism.

That said, why don’t you explain the undermining of moral relativism that Ifa promotes, and we can discuss it. You haven’t done that yet. If anything, Ifa practitioners tend to live a moral life. The fact that BLM founders practice Ifa doesn’t mean they represent the whole of Ifa practitioners.

In fact it seems that Christianity is doing a damn fine job on its own in terms of corrupting culture. Hell, the vast majority of Christians have their own ideas of God and morality which deviate from the Bible.

You’re talking past the point.

You want to flex your knowledge of theology, which has nothing to do with the thread.

Replace Ifa with any form of vodoo/paganism/witchcraft. It doesn’t matter at all, because I’m addressing the INTENT behind its usage, which is to undermine and subvert our culture, founded upon Judeo-Christian values which directly oppose necromancy.

They’re using Ifa no differently than critical theory - convince the youth that their friends and family are villains, teach them new language and customs, and baptize them under a new religion which opposes that of their fathers. Divide and conquer.

I’m sure you know how this process works concerning Marxism, and this is just an extension of that.

This is a spiritual civil war. Feel free to secularize that however you want, but the meaning is the same.

You keep calling Ifa Voodoo/Witchcraft/Paganism because it deviates from some brand of Christian theology. It’s not “flexing theological muscle” to point out that you’re wrong and that you seem to be straw manning Ifa and using some notion of Christianity as a club to knock it down.

The crux of my dialogue with you has been that all religions have wackiness within them – even Christianity. You don’t have to be an academic to see that. You also don’t have to be an academic to see that tribalism (which Christianity highly embodies) makes it difficult to be objective about one’s cultural situation.

Nearly 90% of Congress members are Christian – left and right, democratic and republic. 71% of Americans are Christian, with disparate beliefs abounding. You have Christians who believe differing things who all have equal right to claim the name Christian. So, while Christianity can lead to spiritual good, it can also lead to complete fucking chaos given that it is subjectively applied.

You need to focus on the real problem of “spiritual wickedness in high places.” You seem to have strong (yet uninformed) opinions about what Ifa is and its contributions to civil unrest. Yet you ignore the fact that Christians have specific contributions to this civil unrest. Christians comprise the ranks of BLM as well as BLM opponents. Millions of Christians support BLM. You also fail to acknowledge that you find Christians in all types of political and social situations - right and left.

You should focus your fears and the analysis of what’s going “spiritually wrong” in the world with the very clear problems with Christianity and the inconsistencies of how that faith is practiced. If Christianity’s house was in order, the world would be a better place. Most American Christians don’t live by the Bible and instead live a form of Christianity influenced by secularism.

The real problem in this country with respect to spirituality is that a large group of certain Christians have been deluded by American Nationalism. They think they are the good guys, but they can’t see themselves as God would see them. They are legalistic, yet they fail to abide by the whole of the Bible. They are anti-evil, yet the turn a blind eye to certain political evils that advance their causes. They strain at gnats and swallow camels.

"You have Christians who believe differing things who all have equal right to claim the name Christian."

and thats where youre wrong

a Christian who supports abortion and sexual promiscuity is simply a modern American who is culturally Christian by upbringing.

their faith doesnt trump whats currently convenient socially.

Salsero - You’re not picking up anything I’m putting down, so I’ll engage with your (totally unrelated) argument.

“So, while Christianity can lead to spiritual good, it can also lead to complete fucking chaos given that it is subjectively applied.”

Provide an example. I don’t know what you’re referring to.

“You seem to have strong (yet uninformed) opinions about what Ifa is and its contributions to civil unrest.”

I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this, but Ifa is just another tool of disruption. Forget the origin and just refer to it as “necromancy” and we’ll circumvent all of this ego-flexing you want to engage in. This form of necromancy spiritual subversion is just beginning to appear, so I certainly can’t point to significant evidence of it causing unrest yet. General paganism IS spreading rapidly among young people in other forms though.

“You should focus your fears and the analysis of what’s going “spiritually wrong” in the world”

I do, often. This thread is one data point.

“The real problem in this country with respect to spirituality is that a large group of certain Christians have been deluded by American Nationalism.”

I agree - it’s a problem, but hardly THE problem.

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Onikage,

I 100% follow what you are saying. I just don’t agree with your assessment of the problem which is – in essence “other religions” like Ifa are being used to facilitate a spiritual battle against the “good guys” of Christianity. I think this is bullshit, as the spiritual battle, as it were, includes Christianity as one of the problems. I also think Christianity itself has become so legalistic and self-righteous to the point where deluding spirits abound within the faith. I believe one can make a good argument that the Bible teaches these deluding spirits are sent by God.

One of the issues in this dialog is that you seem to have a unilateral Christian worldview which makes you lack objectivity about your beliefs to the point where you wanna straw man other religions (in general) and necromancy (in particular). Your argument is basically “Old Testament scriptures say no necromancy. Ifa features necromancy. BLM sucks! BLM uses some Ifa-derived ritual akin to necromancy. tReeeeeeeee! But at the same time, you see no room for critique of your worldview.

For example, you fail to acknowledge that “praying to Jesus” is a form of necromancy if you believe that he was an actual living person whose shedding of blood serves as an offering to atone for sin i.e. a blood magic ritual. You critique Ifa for its use of necromancy to commune with ancestral spirits, but you condone communing with the spirit of Jesus. Your theological worldwide prevents you from seeing your religions for what it is. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don’t accept Christianity, as they (1) Are disgusted by the idea of human sacrifice; and (2) Don’t condone necromancy – notwithstanding the fact that they don’t believe that a human can be “God.”

Moreover, you completely ignore the fact that Christianity today has all kinds of shapes and forms. Do you think churches which allow women preachers, women to speak in church, women to serve as leaders, over men, etc. are aligning with the Bible?

You asked for an example of Christian subjectivity causing chaos. I’ll give you two more examples – one which was given previously (which you seemed to miss) and a new one.

Previous example: Consider BLM supporters who are Christian and BLM supporters who are not Christian. Members of both camps have differing interoperations of the Bible, theology, etc. Members of both camps accuse the other of not being true Christians. A BLM-supporting Christian would say “a real Christian would take a stand against racism. Jesus was a SJW.” A BLM-opposing Christian would say “just look at BLM’s Marxism, critical race theory, and necromancy. A real Christian would have no part of that.” The result: tribalism, accusations, chaos, and the minimizing of Christian credibility as a source of morality, for morality is in the eye of the beholder as it relates to their interpretation of Christianity.

New example: Some Christians believe that the USA is Babylon the great. Others believe that the USA is God’s chosen “good guy” country. Babylon-types believe that destruction from within and without is coming (with BLM-type stuff representing that destruction.) Good-guy types believe they’re fighting to save God’s land.

Finally, disagree if you wish, but I’ll continue to argue Christian delusion (both nationalistic as well as the illusion of absolute truth) is indeed the problem. Christianity can’t get its act together. The Christian house is made of glass, and most of its occupants love to throw stones.

HELWIG - 

"You have Christians who believe differing things who all have equal right to claim the name Christian."

and thats where youre wrong

a Christian who supports abortion and sexual promiscuity is simply a modern American who is culturally Christian by upbringing.

their faith doesnt trump whats currently convenient socially.

Helwig,

I am not wrong about what I said, which is that Christians of differing camps believe different things with equal authenticity. And I know you can’t prove that I am wrong. My argument is evidenced by the numerous isms and schisms within the faith.

I would add to my argument the notion “equal authenticity with respect to interpreting scripture to make a doctrinal argument.” I add the foregoing because Christianity has a major hermeneutic problem. In addition, it is very clear that nearly all Christians have a “cultural convenience component.” A good example is the roles of women noted in the NT and how many of those roles are at odds with some of the egalitarian values most of us share today.

Do you sit under a woman pastor by chance? If you do, how to justify that practice Biblically? If you don’t, what do think about others who do?

Finally, you picked abortion and sexual promiscuity as examples of why I am “wrong,” but I didn’t bring any of those things up. Christianity has far bigger problems than those two issues which contributes to its lack of credibility as a religion.

salsero - Onikage,

I 100% follow what you are saying. I just don’t agree with your assessment of the problem which is – in essence “other religions” like Ifa are being used to facilitate a spiritual battle against the “good guys” of Christianity. I think this is bullshit, as the spiritual battle, as it were, includes Christianity as one of the problems. I also think Christianity itself has become so legalistic and self-righteous to the point where deluding spirits abound within the faith. I believe one can make a good argument that the Bible teaches these deluding spirits are sent by God.

One of the issues in this dialog is that you seem to have a unilateral Christian worldview which makes you lack objectivity about your beliefs to the point where you wanna straw man other religions (in general) and necromancy (in particular). Your argument is basically “Old Testament scriptures say no necromancy. Ifa features necromancy. BLM sucks! BLM uses some Ifa-derived ritual akin to necromancy. tReeeeeeeee! But at the same time, you see no room for critique of your worldview.

For example, you fail to acknowledge that “praying to Jesus” is a form of necromancy if you believe that he was an actual living person whose shedding of blood serves as an offering to atone for sin i.e. a blood magic ritual. You critique Ifa for its use of necromancy to commune with ancestral spirits, but you condone communing with the spirit of Jesus. Your theological worldwide prevents you from seeing your religions for what it is. This is one of the reasons Jews and Muslims don’t accept Christianity, as they (1) Are disgusted by the idea of human sacrifice; and (2) Don’t condone necromancy – notwithstanding the fact that they don’t believe that a human can be “God.”

Moreover, you completely ignore the fact that Christianity today has all kinds of shapes and forms. Do you think churches which allow women preachers, women to speak in church, women to serve as leaders, over men, etc. are aligning with the Bible?

You asked for an example of Christian subjectivity causing chaos. I’ll give you two more examples – one which was given previously (which you seemed to miss) and a new one.

Previous example: Consider BLM supporters who are Christian and BLM supporters who are not Christian. Members of both camps have differing interoperations of the Bible, theology, etc. Members of both camps accuse the other of not being true Christians. A BLM-supporting Christian would say “a real Christian would take a stand against racism. Jesus was a SJW.” A BLM-opposing Christian would say “just look at BLM’s Marxism, critical race theory, and necromancy. A real Christian would have no part of that.” The result: tribalism, accusations, chaos, and the minimizing of Christian credibility as a source of morality, for morality is in the eye of the beholder as it relates to their interpretation of Christianity.

New example: Some Christians believe that the USA is Babylon the great. Others believe that the USA is God’s chosen “good guy” country. Babylon-types believe that destruction from within and without is coming (with BLM-type stuff representing that destruction.) Good-guy types believe they’re fighting to save God’s land.

Finally, disagree if you wish, but I’ll continue to argue Christian delusion (both nationalistic as well as the illusion of absolute truth) is indeed the problem. Christianity can’t get its act together. The Christian house is made of glass, and most of its occupants love to throw stones.

I appreciate the discussion but again, you simply aren’t getting what I’m saying.

Replace Christianity with Hinduism and Ifa with Islam if you’d like. It doesn’t matter. My point is that proliferation of these ideas is being used as a weapon.

They’re used to subvert and oppose existing culture - to capture the youth, mind and spirit, and dismantle communities.

This isn’t new by any means. Waring cultures have always made a point to capture the mind and souls of their opponents by imposing new beliefs and religion upon them. This is all very basic stuff.

Now onto Christian chaos:

Your example is this thread basically? Men naturally squabble and fall into tribalism. That has nothing to do with the teachings of Christ which are only meant to unify his followers. I’m certainly not the judge of who “real Christians” are. I can only recognize when someone is acting in direct defiance of the teachings of Jesus - like those on the street committing violence and destruction.

Second example is… more worldly tribalism?

This is just age-old human behavior. A massive amount of Nazis believed themselves to be fighting on the side of God. So what?

None of this is evidence of Christianity-spwaned chaos.

“The Christian house” is made of followers of Christ around the world, carrying out their unique individual roles. It’s not a governing political force. If you judge it as such, you’ve already lost the plot.

Murders in the city of Atlanta up 140% since time of protests

“Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.”

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Interesting!

Do they practice Yoruba indigenous religion, worship Satan, or are they radical atheists?

anthonyMI - 

Do they practice Yoruba indigenous religion, worship Satan, or are they radical atheists?

The founders? They practice Yorubian Ifa, which is demonic viewed from a Western lens (OUR lens).

It’s a more logical version of rebellion compared to that exhibited by the Black Israelites or Nation of Islam.

It’s Anti-Westerners attempting to undermine Western culture by introducing conflicting beliefs and spreading them to their followers.

Radical Atheism is more of an Antifa thing, even though the overlap is incredible. I don’t know of anyone worshiping Satan, but I’m sure they’re out there.

Sarcasm extinguished?

Right, so just another example of Christian fundamentalists deciding that any religion that isn't Christianity, and really any religion that isn't your very specific version of Christianity, is actually devil worship. Same as for the previous 2000 years of pogroms, racism, and genocide. Nothing new.

anthonyMI - 

Right, so just another example of Christian fundamentalists deciding that any religion that isn't Christianity, and really any religion that isn't your very specific version of Christianity, is actually devil worship. Same as for the previous 2000 years of pogroms, racism, and genocide. Nothing new.

Right, so just another relativist who is unable to recognize that Christian values guided the Western world to its current status, while ending the slave trade and establishing equality for women. You’ll gladly sacrifice all our Christian culture has created for the sake feeding your own resentful ego.

All things white and Western are oppressive and patriarchal. All things brown and foreign are just misunderstood, man!

So what if my son’s public school teacher has him summon Mike Brown’s spirit into his own meat vessel? It’s all just make believe anyways man! What are you, a bigot?!

Onikage -
anthonyMI - 

Right, so just another example of Christian fundamentalists deciding that any religion that isn't Christianity, and really any religion that isn't your very specific version of Christianity, is actually devil worship. Same as for the previous 2000 years of pogroms, racism, and genocide. Nothing new.

Right, so just another relativist who is unable to recognize that Christian values guided the Western world to its current status, while ending the slave trade and establishing equality for women. You’ll gladly sacrifice all our Christian culture has created for the sake feeding your own resentful ego.

All things white and Western are oppressive and patriarchal. All things brown and foreign are just misunderstood, man!

So what if my son’s public school teacher has him summon Mike Brown’s spirit into his own meat vessel? It’s all just make believe anyways man! What are you, a bigot?!

Usually when someone tries to make that argument, they are supposed to bring up how The West has put aside superstition and petty religious sectarianism.

The bloodthirsty Crusader who wants to purge the heretic and the unbeliever doesn’t fit into that image very well. That part of Christian culture would be better off gone forever.