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<p>Brian Bowles tested postive for an eleveted testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) ratio following his bout at UFC 160 and today the NSAC issued his penalty:</p>
The Nevada State Athletic Commission today suspended UFC bantamweight Brian Bowles for nine months and fined him 30 percent of his UFC 160 purse for an elevated testosterone-to-epitestosterone (T/E) ratio.
Bowles, who lost to George Roop via second-round TKO, is suspended retroactively to the event and forfeits $5,700 of his $19,000 purse to the commission.
Unexpectedly, Bowles was present at the hearing and said he had no idea why he failed his test, according to ESPN reporter Brett Okamoto, who attended Bowles' hearing today in Las Vegas.
Thacommish - wooooah what?! bowles!??! not the mayor of legotown! is there anything that can elevate that level naturally? just out of curiosity cause i have no clue
Thacommish - wooooah what?! bowles!??! not the mayor of legotown! is there anything that can elevate that level naturally? just out of curiosity cause i have no clue
Its not a level it is a ratio. 1:1 is what almost all normal men have. Nasc allows 4:1 iirc. Used to be 6:1 but thino they dropped it.
Thacommish - wooooah what?! bowles!??! not the mayor of legotown! is there anything that can elevate that level naturally? just out of curiosity cause i have no clue
Its not a level it is a ratio. 1:1 is what almost all normal men have. Nasc allows 4:1 iirc. Used to be 6:1 but thino they dropped it.
Yeah but just the T level is there anything that can make that go up rather than the E to kind of cause this? like naturally?
Not that I am aware of. Maybe a little off as some athletes have come in up to 3:1 that i have heard of.
I wonder if they will release the actual ratio...?
Thacommish - wooooah what?! bowles!??! not the mayor of legotown! is there anything that can elevate that level naturally? just out of curiosity cause i have no clue
Its not a level it is a ratio. 1:1 is what almost all normal men have. Nasc allows 4:1 iirc. Used to be 6:1 but thino they dropped it.
Yeah but just the T level is there anything that can make that go up rather than the E to kind of cause this? like naturally?
Not that I am aware of. Maybe a little off as some athletes have come in up to 3:1 that i have heard of.
I wonder if they will release the actual ratio...?
As others have said, 20:1 doesnt mean anything other then he obviously had synthetic test in his system, not the amount. A ex football player tested in the 80:1 range or some shit in the past for a fight.
Caught_clean - As others have said, 20:1 doesnt mean anything other then he obviously had synthetic test in his system, not the amount. A ex football player tested in the 80:1 range or some shit in the past for a fight.
This, its test.to.epi test ratio, 2 guys could inject the same amount of synthetic test and have wildly different ratios based on there epi levela.
In a typical male, this ratio rarely goes over 4 parts testosterone to 1 part epitestosterone. Therefore, if an athlete were to inject exogenous testosterone into the body, testosterone levels would increase, but epitestosterone would not. This would dramatically changes the T:E ratio.
According to WADA if the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is greater than 4:1 (changed from 6:1 previously) it's considered evidence of possible doping and leads to further tests ... the key word is "further testing" This means it's not finalized. . . a Carbon-Isotope Ratio test or CI test is usually performed at this point. (This is how Tour de France Champion Floyd Landis was caught.)
WADA's Code advices two different practices to determine if the increased T:E ratio is due to a physiological or pathological condition or to administration of exogenous hormones ... However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T:E ratios greater than 6:1 ... In that case additional testing is required to determine the etiology of the elevated ratio. Unfortunatly for Mr. Bowles, the test was off and that = popped, as the NSAC does not follow WADA guidelines.
Caught_clean - As others have said, 20:1 doesnt mean anything other then he obviously had synthetic test in his system, not the amount. A ex football player tested in the 80:1 range or some shit in the past for a fight.
This, its test.to.epi test ratio, 2 guys could inject the same amount of synthetic test and have wildly different ratios based on there epi levela.
Of course. I was just trying to explain that it would be almost impossible to fail a t/e ratio wothout the presence of sythetic testosterone.
In a typical male, this ratio rarely goes over 4 parts testosterone to 1 part epitestosterone. Therefore, if an athlete were to inject exogenous testosterone into the body, testosterone levels would increase, but epitestosterone would not. This would dramatically changes the T:E ratio.
According to WADA if the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is greater than 4:1 (changed from 6:1 previously) it's considered evidence of possible doping and leads to further tests ... the key word is "further testing" This means it's not finalized. . . a Carbon-Isotope Ratio test or CI test is usually performed at this point. (This is how Tour de France Champion Floyd Landis was caught.)
WADA's Code advices two different practices to determine if the increased T:E ratio is due to a physiological or pathological condition or to administration of exogenous hormones ... However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T:E ratios greater than 6:1 ... In that case additional testing is required to determine the etiology of the elevated ratio. Unfortunatly for Mr. Bowles, the test was off and that = popped, as the NSAC does not follow WADA guidelines.
maybe they should send out the sample for a second more efficient test if they are going to be taking his money and work privileges away ...
In a typical male, this ratio rarely goes over 4 parts testosterone to 1 part epitestosterone. Therefore, if an athlete were to inject exogenous testosterone into the body, testosterone levels would increase, but epitestosterone would not. This would dramatically changes the T:E ratio.
According to WADA if the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone is greater than 4:1 (changed from 6:1 previously) it's considered evidence of possible doping and leads to further tests ... the key word is "further testing" This means it's not finalized. . . a Carbon-Isotope Ratio test or CI test is usually performed at this point. (This is how Tour de France Champion Floyd Landis was caught.)
WADA's Code advices two different practices to determine if the increased T:E ratio is due to a physiological or pathological condition or to administration of exogenous hormones ... However, there are documented cases of non-doping athletes with T:E ratios greater than 6:1 ... In that case additional testing is required to determine the etiology of the elevated ratio. Unfortunatly for Mr. Bowles, the test was off and that = popped, as the NSAC does not follow WADA guidelines.
maybe they should send out the sample for a second more efficient test if they are going to be taking his money and work privileges away ...
yeah, that would be the right thing to do... unless they already did it, maybe? i dunno.... that fight was from back in May, i thought...
according to the articles i read, they're still using the 6:1 ratio, and Bowles was actually higher than 20:1.....