Boxer guilty of murder

The guy who killed Kellermans brother.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12039346/

Boxer pleads guilty in death of sports writer

Butler bludgeoned brother of ESPN radio show host Kellerman in 2004

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12039346/

i wonder if he had the same ghetto thug fixation that kellerman has

That sucker punch broke Grant's jaw.

Unbelievable

Scum.

what a piece of shit

what an asshole.

anger issues? i think so

If this is the fight that i saw on tv then he fractured the guys jaw and he was around for awhile. I remeber watching this because he was SUPPOSED to win against the old veteran fighter but he was handed his ass damn near every round. As a fighter, trainer, promoter, and fight enthusiast i cannot understand the purpose of this action.

As a fighter trainer I can understand the reaction in the ring.............I know i will get crap for this and will explain after the feedback and support my point.

Again the murder was not acceptable on any level, but as a fighter and trainer i can understand............

I remember Max Kellerman somewhat defending him when he threw that suckerpunch as well. To kill that man's brother is low.

knee obviosuly you didnt see it... he was pretending to shake his hand when he suckerpunched and claimed he was having a "flashback"

"Butler has a pro record of 20-5-0, with 12 wins by knockout. He is
best known for sucker-punching opponent Richard Grant in November
2001 after losing a charity bout in New York."

Not anymore...

ok i could not wait to post my point becausee of the fact that it will be taken out of context - so i am following up now.

As a fighter from day one we are mentally and physically conditioned that losing is not acceptable - that is the mental part. Having that fact drilled into your head day in and day out allows little or no room for acceptance in any sport. Subconsciously it takes on a physical form in that we train on a physical and mental level not to fall, not to lose, not to submit to the punch/kick/choke/joint manipulation. THE TRAINING ITSELF forces one to accept and ignore the pain: Ex. shin conditioning in Muay Thai. Other examples of how we mentally train ourselves to not submit to outside forces would include Tommy Morrison and Ray Mercer - even Ray Mercer's brutal KO of Jeff Pegues. In both events Mercer reigned down multiple full power head shots on both fighters - they did not fall, the ref stopped the fights on both events ( i think Pegues went thru' the ropes from instinctively trying to rull under a punch and got caught).

My point is the nature of the beast that we join with in combtive sports is to physically do damage to one's opponent. My brutal TKO stoppage of Dudko with his nose, McDonald's stoppage of Roufus with a torn ACL. The very nature of the sport is not to submit to cadiovascular or physical limitation or opposition.

When you pull a kid from the lower income areas where the act of submission is even MORE frowned upon and put him into a sport where the very nature is to beat somone without remorse to insure victory - you are breeding a beast of which incidents of the "after fight KO" will persist (one word............. Tyson).

Do I condone what he did - NO, BUT - I understand it. The murder is truly unacceptable even for a fighter.

The problem is that trainers who have mentally violent individual do nothing to nurture the "thinking" aspect of the fighter. IMO a good trainer will nuture the demon needed to pursue a fighitng career, while establishing control.

Did everybody miss that this thread was about murdering a friend?

anyone who doesnt think thats a suckerpunch is a friggin idiot

suckerpunch.

and BigDiesel, that post of yours was pretty weak IMO. There are THOUSANDS of fighters, and none of them pull the crap he pulled. "As a fighter, I understand it..." we ALL understand it, doesnt matter if you're a fighter or not.

Hope he rots in his cell for a looonggg time

LOL @ trying to rationalize that type of action. Shitbag deserves to be banned from the sport and to fry for what he did to Max's brother.