Let's say you were strolling down the mean streets of West Linn, Oregon and someone suddenly got you in a rear naked choke. Wouldn't it be most effective to reach back and attempt to break the choker's fingers? Discuss. 
the best defense in that scenario is to pretend you are passed out early, and when he lets go, punch him in the nuts
If someone is performing the choke properly you couldn't reach their fingers
dangerboy12 - the best defense in that scenario is to pretend you are passed out early, and when he lets go, punch him in the nuts
I can think of about 10 better defenses than playing dead, haha. One of the most surprising is to grab his leg between yours and sit back on him. Your average street fighter gets shocked by it. Also waling him in the nuts with your feet ceaselessly can work.
Regardless, for this thread let's discuss the efficiency of breaking fingers...
mdrndaysamurai - If someone is performing the choke properly you couldn't reach their fingers
You sure? I'm pretty flexible. Will have to test this out.
Willin -mdrndaysamurai - If someone is performing the choke properly you couldn't reach their fingersYou sure? I'm pretty flexible. Will have to test this out.
You can reach the hand behind your head but you would have no leverage and no fulcrum, even if you managed to get hold of just one finger. You'd pass out long before you could even try to break anything.
Fingers are easiest to break when they are interlaced. Novices like to do that when applying a MT plum, and it's pretty easy to attack a finger from this position.
Wrap your hands around the back of his head and smash his face with the back of your head?
Probably get bit so never mind...
Willin -dangerboy12 - the best defense in that scenario is to pretend you are passed out early, and when he lets go, punch him in the nutsI can think of about 10 better defenses than playing dead, haha. One of the most surprising is to grab his leg between yours and sit back on him. Your average street fighter gets shocked by it. Also waling him in the nuts with your feet ceaselessly can work.
Regardless, for this thread let's discuss the efficiency of breaking fingers...
Bas Rutten used that defense in one of his videos, you can see him start to do it to Reem here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBR8di_w0l8
TuLegit - Ya great idea try and fuck with someone who has a dominant position on you, your neck is getting snapped 9/10.
That only happens in movies, its actually pretty hard to break someone's neck unless we're talking about adult vs small child.
Two hands on one arm and fight the choke first. Drop your chin and do not let your assailant get good position. Once you get into a position in which you can breath try turning into your attacker (you may be able to get a bit sideways) from here you can defend back with elbows, eye gouges and knees. Get the arm off your kneck as fast as possible.
Work reaction drills with a training partner. As they come up behind you and attempt to apply a choke work on dropping your chin, raising a shoulder and using a hand to block the choke.
Be alert, be well trained and prepare to fight your ass off.
TuLegit - Ya great idea try and fuck with someone who has a dominant position on you, your neck is getting snapped 9/10.
Someone's been watching too many Segal movies.
I also like how your self defense advice is "If someone jumps you when you aren't expecting it, you should do nothing".
Reach back and rip his nuts off works for me lol 
Bas Rutten had a great story about this. I believe he told it on the JRE. Basically he was teaching chokes and this girl kept claiming she would gouge eyes, or squeeze his nuts, stuff like that, to get out. So he called her up, put her in a rear naked choke, and asked her to try and get out anyway she could. He then told her that if her fingers got near his eyes he'd break her neck. That ended that controversy.
Essentially he says if someone has you in a dominant position, poking them in the eye or scratching is going to make them react very violently rather than let go.
All that being said, anyone without skills should watch his street fight self defence video, it's pure gold
mdrndaysamurai -If someone is performing the choke properly you couldn't reach their fingers
You wouldn't even have the time if someone legit choked you
if you can reach his fingers, you can also grab his hand and physically make him stop choking you.
that works a lot better
Sofa King Cool - You should reach down and grab his legs.If he had been able to tickle the bottom of BJ's feet he would kept the belt
-Matt Hughes
Idk about everyone else's fingers but years of wrestling has given me very strong fingers. People's hands vs my one finger usually can't get me in any kind of danger of it breaking. Definitely not in the 4-5 secs it'll take me to choke you out
I've never took a close look at the unified rules can you bend fingers back in a bout
MAINMAYNARD -I've never took a close look at the unified rules can you bend fingers back in a bout
Small joint manipulation is a foul
Is it a fully locked in RNC?
Does he wrap his legs around you before you can react to the RNC???
Lots of variables not mentioned...
Tuck that chin...