Broward deputies ordered to set up perimetter

From http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article203015289.html
 
The Broward Sheriff’s Office captain who initially took charge of the chaotic scene at a Parkland high school where 17 people were killed told deputies to form a perimeter around the deadly scene — which they did instead of going in to confront the shooter, according to a partial BSO dispatch log obtained by the Miami Herald.
 
Capt. Jan Jordan, commander of BSO’s Parkland district, gave the order, the log shows, identifying her by her police call sign.
 
Broward Sheriff Scott Israel has said BSO training and nationwide active-shooter procedure call for armed law enforcement officers to confront shooters immediately rather than secure a scene.
 
The document raises fresh questions about the department’s handling of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14.
 
Before being appointed to command Parkland, Jordan was assigned to BSO’s civil division, which serves subpoenas and injunctions, according to her online biography. She was previously with the Fort Lauderdale Police Department, where Israel also worked.
 
BSO did not directly dispute that Jordan issued a stand-down order. Nor did the agency confirm it.
 
“If detectives had answers to all of the questions, then there would be no need for an investigation,” BSO spokeswoman Veda Coleman-Wright wrote in an email late Thursday night.
 
Israel has already publicly lambasted one deputy, Scot Peterson, who did not enter a Stoneman Douglas building where Nikolas Cruz mowed down students and staff. Three other BSO deputies were also stationed outside the school, according to CNN. Coral Springs police officers were the first law enforcement to enter the building, about four minutes after Cruz left the school, Israel said on the cable network.
 
Time stamps were not visible on the log of calls to BSO dispatch obtained by the Herald. But a fuller version shared earlier with Fox News shows the shooting — which lasted roughly six minutes — would have been over by the time of Jordan’s order.
 
Cruz’s gun is reported to have jammed during the shooting, causing him to flee the scene and possibly ending his deadly rampage earlier than he intended.
 
Still, he should have been confronted by deputies as soon as they arrived, Israel has said.
 
Peterson, who resigned last week but is defending his actions, was trained to have “killed the killer,” Israel has said.
 
BSO has generally refused to answer questions about how the shooting was handled, citing an ongoing internal investigation, and is examining the conduct of its deputies and commanders. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement has also been tasked with investigating.
 
Israel did not return a phone call Thursday. Jordan could not be reached.
 
She is one of three finalists for the police chief job in Tequesta, according to the Palm Beach Post.

what a fucking shit show.

Never_rolled - 

I had dinner with two BSO deps. last night. Their union rep Jeff Bell all over the news mostly Fox is a solid guy and they are with him 100%. The union rep said people on street are going up to deputies and calling them cowards. The guys I have spoken to couldn't care less about that and it doesn't bother them.

 

The guys in the field so to speak have a completely different take on what happened and are 180* off from the disgraced sheriff their boss. Jeff Bell said the sheriff won't even let him look at the video. They feel mistakes were made and they should be admitted to and dealt with ASAP. They should be open and transparent. They feel the sheriff making excuses and being evasive is only making them all look bad. In essence they are with the public on this.

 

One of the guys said he hopes if he were ever in that situation he would have went in. He said you have two options. You go in and stop the shooter or you are shot and possibly killed. Their are no other correct options. He also said if he froze he would immediately call his wife to buy plane tickets to Canada as he knows that would be the end for him.

 

Parkland was run really well until this new captain was transferred. She is a lesbo and very unlikable amongst the people under her. They feel leadership in the city has taken a beating with her. They also believe once everything is investigated she will be gone.


Unlikable dyke promoted well above her abilities resulting in a fucked up response to an active shooter.

Fuck..that's bad.

 

 

Parkland’s Captain Jan Jordan.

 

Female police captain? Fucks sake.

I just think it’s funny how they set up a perimeter and the kid still made it to Walmart and such.

Never_rolled, what do your buddies have to say about their active shooter training? What methods are they being taught? Did they ever go through scenarios with two-man or solo entry?

Supposed to wait for the police to come help, they say. Don't worry about the fact that police don't have a constitutional duty to protect, they say. 

Go figure! Probably some chick that had no business being the position she was in and was promoted through some diversity bs.

Facts matter: https://apnews.com/9c2289b342b5493c8ede8e0bbb816f50/Report:-Order-for-perimeter-came-after-school-shooting-ended

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Figures a stinking cunt is behind it 

Never_rolled -

I had dinner with two BSO deps. last night. Their union rep Jeff Bell all over the news mostly Fox is a solid guy and they are with him 100%. The union rep said people on street are going up to deputies and calling them cowards. The guys I have spoken to couldn't care less about that and it doesn't bother them.

 

The guys in the field so to speak have a completely different take on what happened and are 180* off from the disgraced sheriff their boss. Jeff Bell said the sheriff won't even let him look at the video. They feel mistakes were made and they should be admitted to and dealt with ASAP. They should be open and transparent. They feel the sheriff making excuses and being evasive is only making them all look bad. In essence they are with the public on this.

 

One of the guys said he hopes if he were ever in that situation he would have went in. He said you have two options. You go in and stop the shooter or you are shot and possibly killed. Their are no other correct options. He also said if he froze he would immediately call his wife to buy plane tickets to Canada as he knows that would be the end for him.

 

Parkland was run really well until this new captain was transferred. She is a lesbo and very unlikable amongst the people under her. They feel leadership in the city has taken a beating with her. They also believe once everything is investigated she will be gone.

Lol at firing a gay female. 

 

Not. Going. To. Happen. 

Never_rolled - 
Stupidnewbie - Never_rolled, what do your buddies have to say about their active shooter training? What methods are they being taught? Did they ever go through scenarios with two-man or solo entry?

They are trained to go in. Protocol was not followed by Peterson despite what his lawyer says. He froze no two ways about it. The captain also did not follow protocol. Before Israel became sheriff he was a captain at Ft. Lauderdale. The dyke came from Ft. lauderdale. Not sure if there is a connection there but that needs to be pointed out as well.


Do you think he threw Peterson under the bus to protect the dyke Captain that he brought in from his old dept?


 Nearly all small police departments are full of incompetents. It just takes a mass shooting for their incompetence ti become national news.

Al Cappucino -

guilty

banco -

 Nearly all small police departments are full of incompetents. It just takes a mass shooting for their incompetence ti become national news.

Seal Beach is a tiny dept and their response to the salon shooting was outstanding. It all has to do with officer standards and leadership. 

Al Cappucino -

 

 

Parkland’s Captain Jan Jordan.

 

Lol. What a shocker it got fucked up. 

Never_rolled -
effinggoof -
Never_rolled - 
Stupidnewbie - Never_rolled, what do your buddies have to say about their active shooter training? What methods are they being taught? Did they ever go through scenarios with two-man or solo entry?

They are trained to go in. Protocol was not followed by Peterson despite what his lawyer says. He froze no two ways about it. The captain also did not follow protocol. Before Israel became sheriff he was a captain at Ft. Lauderdale. The dyke came from Ft. lauderdale. Not sure if there is a connection there but that needs to be pointed out as well.


Do you think he threw Peterson under the bus to protect the dyke Captain that he brought in from his old dept?


No. Two separate issues. Two separate fuck ups.

 

To the other guy BSO is a large force close to 6000 people.

And their budget is close to a billion dollars a year. They aren’t small by any measure.