I think I'm gonna yuke.
Butterbean is a fat turd who doesn't belong in a ring.
^^^agreed
STFU KKM!!!
Butterbean is the bigger draw (at least, in the USA.
Did anyone else hear plenty of laughter during Butterbeans Intro? His face appeared on the big screen and all you could hear was people in the crowd giggling lol.
well butterbean is obviously the more talented
fighter. i mean, did you see those shorts?
kinda crazy
bigger draw = bigger payday
You guys do realize that guys like Fedor and Shogun are nowhere near the highest paid guys in Pride. Guys like Ogawa, Fujita, and probably even Nishijima make more than these guys because they are bigger draws with the Japanese fans. Same logic would apply in America too.
"To answer your question, the guy that put more asses in those seats deserves the bigger check. Do you disagree (try not to puke while answering)?"
Agreed, but I can honestly tell you I think more people bought this PPV for Shogun than did for Butterbean, even if Butterbean is the bigger "name" here in the US.
No, it's actually quite logical. I'd say a majority of the people who bought this card were hardcore MMA fans who care about Shogun a hell of a lot more than Butterbean. As for the casual American UFC fans who bought the card, do you really think Butterbean was what did it for them? No, it was simply curiosity and the claim that Pride fighters were the best in the world.
Nobody bought this card for Butterbean.
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From: Gator Man
Date: 10/23/06 02:04 PM
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do your homework idiot. fedor and silva get more $ than yoshida and ogawa. don't troll
source?
My guess is that most of the PPV buys were from people who already know Pride and wanted to see Fedor, Shogun, Barnett and Henderson. However, the casual PPV buyer see's a name they recognize (Butterbean) and says "ooh, that might be a good one." As for the live attendance I bet more people there did know Butterbean then Shogun.
Then again, I could be totally wrong.
"PRIDE, who I assume did market research prior to the fight, disagrees with you. While I agree that Butterbean probably didn't sell too many PPVs, the same can be said for Shogun, and then some."
Are you disagreeing that the majority of the buyers were probably semi-knowlegdable MMA fans who know who Shogun is? Was Butterbean even in any of the advertising for this show?
"...but I can honestly tell you I think more people bought this PPV for Shogun than did for Butterbean, even if Butterbean is the bigger "name" here in the US."
I often agree with you but not this time. Very few people in the USA even know who Shogun is. Butterbean is very well known. It actually makes sense that Butterbean was paid more.
"The average pay preview buyer- Shogun who?"
That is not logical. The average PPV buyer for this show was probably already familiar with Pride and was looking forward to seeing the Pride fighters. Do you really think that many casual fans bought this card?
Again, was Butterbean even in any of the advertising? I know he wasn't on the original "Real Deal" poster.
I often agree with you but not this time. Very few people in the USA even know who Shogun is. Butterbean is very well known. It actually makes sense that Butterbean was paid more.
Damn , Bean is just not MMA. He was on Ali cards back in the day. Shogun is a rising star and Bean is a filler. Bean should go back to Alabama and run his restaurant.
"I often agree with you but not this time. Very few people in the USA even know who Shogun is. Butterbean is very well known. It actually makes sense that Butterbean was paid more."
You're missing the point. Just because more people in the US know who Butterbean is doesn't mean that more of those people actually BOUGHT THE PPV.
If Butterbean was less a draw for those spending $40 for the pay-per-view than Shogun was, how come he was more a draw, judging by reaction, for the audience, who spent $400+ to attend?
Also, this argument is silly, as it seems more likely that Shogun gets money on a contract/not paid in the States than Butterbean does. So it is possible Bean's NSAC pay makes up a higher proportion of his real pay than Shogun's does.
"If Butterbean was less a draw for those spending $40 for the pay-per-view than Shogun was, how come he was more a draw, judging by reaction, for the audience, who spent $400+ to attend?"
That means very little. A huge fat guy wearing American flag shorts can get big applause, it doesn't mean the people paid $400 primarily to see him fight. The guy's a novelty, a sideshow.
"Also, this argument is silly, as it seems more likely that Shogun gets money on a contract/not paid in the States than Butterbean does. So it is possible Bean's NSAC pay makes up a higher proportion of his real pay than Shogun's does."
That's entirely possible but we don't have any real knowledge of it.