I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I would kill someone to see Anderson Silva meet Fedor @ LHW. The battle would be incredible. The question is could Fedor make 205?
Fedor could make 205 lbs if he hacked off a leg.
I think he could do it with the right diet.
The question is TR why would Fedor even attempt to make 205?
The man has dominated in the most prestigious division in all combat sports. Still has several quality opponents to knock off at HW i.e. Arlovski, Barnett, Werdum, Overeem, Kharitonov, Pee Wee Herman and even a rematch with Cro Cop.
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
ArtVandelay -Titanium Rhino - I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I would kill someone to see Anderson Silva meet Fedor @ LHW. The battle would be incredible. The question is could Fedor make 205?
You would seriously take another person's life to see two guys fight? See that is what I don't get about mma fans. It is like fighting is everything to you.
You have guys that say "Id fight my own dad in there" or "Id kill to see those two fight"
Seriously get therapy.
I wasn't actually serious about killing someone, but fighting is pretty much everything to me...And I've had therapy. It doesn't help.
I def. think he could make LHW.
But if it ain't broke, why go thru the hassle. Especially if he thinks he might not feel his best there.
i dont think fedor would hit that hard at LHW. his big looping punches are from his weight. he is a heavy guy and he uses his weight very well.
Kansas Comet - The question is TR why would Fedor even attempt to make 205?
The man has dominated in the most prestigious division in all combat sports. Still has several quality opponents to knock off at HW i.e. Arlovski, Barnett, Werdum, Overeem, Kharitonov, Pee Wee Herman and even a rematch with Cro Cop.
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
To find out who is really pound for pound best in the world.
Loss loss for Fedor.
Loss loss for Fedor.
Kansas Comet -
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
First, I would argue that ever since NHB became MMA, the premium division in this particular combat sport has always been the LHW division, not the HW division. LHW has always had a much deeper well of talent to draw from. HW has always been a handful of elite guys and a host of scrubs.
Second, no matter where you fall on the prestige issue, the HW division is completely devoid of guys Fedor hasn't already smashed. The LHW division is much deeper both in terms of talent (as mentioned above) and in terms of interesting new opponents for Fedor.
LMFAO!
Of course he could. He's 6' at most, probably more like 5'11. He is 235 and soft. If guys like Overeem and Forest, who are 6'3 and walk at 240+, can fight at 205, Fedor easily could. If he leaned down he wouldn't even have to cut much weight.
^^I agree^^
Titanium Rhino - The question is could Fedor make 205?
Why the fuck should he? The 205-ers who really weigh 230 all cut weight to fight smaller competition because that gives them the best chance to dominate - whereas Fedor at 230 has still been able to dominate the biggest and most prestigious weight class possible.
Anderson claims to be 220. Then let them fight at HW, with no convenient weight-cutting needed.
Let them fight, as is. Anderson undoubtedly weighed over 206 and was probably close to 220 when he fought Irvin anyway. And Anderson certainly still appeared to be in-shape.
Steve4192 -Kansas Comet -
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
First, I would argue that ever since NHB became MMA, the premium division in this particular combat sport has always been the LHW division, not the HW division. LHW has always had a much deeper well of talent to draw from. HW has always been a handful of elite guys and a host of scrubs.
That was only in the U.S. - i.e., in the UFC - because the UFC just couldn't hold on to their best HW's when the epicenter of the sport was in Japan.
Ever since the days of Randy and Kerr, who were both reigning champions in the UFC and who both left the UFC while the sport was still struggling and moribund here, the UFC just couldn't keep their best HW's in-house - so 200 then became their premier division largely by default, and has traditionally been their marquee division ever since the days of Frank Shamrock, who singlehandedly carried the promotion during the dark ages.
But that was largely because 200 was the biggest division left with top fighters, when the UFC's best at HW migrated over to Japan. Randy, Kerr, Mo, Coleman - virtually all of the UFC's top HW's in that era - were examples of the talent drain at HW, where the UFC just couldn't hold on to any of them exclusively (which is a big part of why they handed out that prematurely exorbitant contract to Rizzo, just to finally lock down a young top HW to be their HW centerpiece for the future - oops).
That migration of top HW talent out of the UFC (and of top talent from the sport in the U.S. in general) is what really started the seismic shift from HW to LHW in the UFC in the first place. (Especially when the whole defining principle of the original UFC had been open-weight - i.e., HW - competition.)
But that still doesn't change the fact that HW is by nature the most prestigious division in all combat sports - because ultimately it is the most inherently meaningful.
Being the best there, the best of the biggest, makes you the best overall, the proverbial "baddest man on the planet."
200/205 just became the most prestigious divison in the UFC by default - not by design.
Kansas Comet is entirely correct as usual.
Steve4192 - Second, no matter where you fall on the prestige issue, the HW division is completely devoid of guys Fedor hasn't already smashed. The LHW division is much deeper both in terms of talent (as mentioned above) and in terms of interesting new opponents for Fedor.
What?
Are you saying that Forrest, Rashad, Lyoto, Chuck, and Wanderlei would actually be more "interesting new opponents" and be given a better chance at beating Fedor than Arlovski, Barnett, Brock, Sergei, or Gonzaga?
LOL. Antonio Silva alone would probably be given better odds (and would be a more "interesting new opponent") than any 205-er out there.
Again, the 205-ers cut weight for a reason. So does Anderson.
ArtVandelay -Titanium Rhino - I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I would kill someone to see Anderson Silva meet Fedor @ LHW. The battle would be incredible. The question is could Fedor make 205?
You would seriously take another person's life to see two guys fight? See that is what I don't get about mma fans. It is like fighting is everything to you.
You have guys that say "Id fight my own dad in there" or "Id kill to see those two fight"
Seriously get therapy.
hello, my name is hyperbole. nice to meet you finally !!!
^ To add to what WB has, i think it helped that they got Tito when they did. The big brash personality who could sell to UFC fans. It certainly wasnt gonna be Rizzo.
Titanium Rhino -We know who is pound 4 pound best in the world, its Fedor.Kansas Comet - The question is TR why would Fedor even attempt to make 205?
The man has dominated in the most prestigious division in all combat sports. Still has several quality opponents to knock off at HW i.e. Arlovski, Barnett, Werdum, Overeem, Kharitonov, Pee Wee Herman and even a rematch with Cro Cop.
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
To find out who is really pound for pound best in the world.
Just because Dana has decided to crown one of his fighters p4p best doesn't mean its true.
It's Fedor. Any non-biased MMA fan knows that.
Kansas Comet - The question is TR why would Fedor even attempt to make 205?Wat?
The man has dominated in the most prestigious division in all combat sports. Still has several quality opponents to knock off at HW i.e. Arlovski, Barnett, Werdum, Overeem, Kharitonov, Pee Wee Herman and even a rematch with Cro Cop.
Why move down in weight away from the most prestigious Division?
HW is not the most prestigious division in MMA. No heavyweight (until Brock) has ever been a top draw, and none but Fedor and Nogueira have ever been in the running for P4P.