Capcom and Square Enix have lost "it"

FRAT warning....

These 2 companies have completely lost themselves and are slowly destroying some great franchises in the process. After the release of RE6 and seeing some of the scathing reviews, I'm disappointed Capcom and Square Enix both have become companies that ignore their fan base and only look to turn the largest profit possible.

I've always believed that Squaresoft and Enix's merger was the turning point for the slow downward spiral that Final Fantasy has gone through. The last great FF IMO was 10 while 12-13 IMO are both poor entries in the series. I don't believe it's a coincidence that 10 was the last entry Squaresoft produced before the merger.

Now, SE is choosing to make not one but two sequels of FF13 when fans weren't really clamoring for them. In fact, SE started the whole sequel thing in the first place. Before the merger, FF didn't have sequels. That was the beauty of the series-getting great games, stories, and worlds that got you hooked but once they were done, you knew the story was finished. It was time to move on the next one. Now every entry has sequels and/or spinoffs when the originals weren't even that great in the first place.

The sequels are easy cash grabs due to developers being able to use the same engine and systems used to create the original enabling the company to minimize costs. There is no need to sell millions of copies like the original because the costs for the sequel are much less. The problem with the sequels is that they are a slap in the face to fans. Games the fans really want are ignored while these sequels no one asked for keep getting produced.

FF13 Versus was a title announced alongside FF13 that still has not seen the light of day and probably never will. Fans were excited for it because of the gameplay, the open world, and a return of the airships, a FF staple that hadn't appeared in a game in years. Development for the game has slowed with little info coming from the studio and rumor is the game has been cancelled with SE keeping the news close to their chest to prevent their shares from dropping. Once again, only caring about their pockets.

FF7 is one of the series' most beloved entries and also a game that has received the sequel treatment. Fans have asked for a remake for years ever since SE showed a demo to show this generations' power and what these systems were capable of. Has SE given the fans what they want? Of course not. SE claims that they will not make a remake to FF7 until they make a FF entry on par with 7. Looks like a remake isn't going to happen then.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is another game the fan base has been looking for since the release of KH2 back in '06. Instead, there have been numerous spinoffs made for the Game Boy and PSP, systems that many gamers don't have.

How is someone supposed to follow a series when every game is exclusive to a different system? I personally don't care about games being exclusive to a single system but what sense does it make to release games on every system possible? Make the games exclusive to one, or available to all. They've had games released on the PS2, Game Boy Advance, PSP, DS, mobile devices, and the 3DS. Ridiculous! All the while, they hold back on releasing KH3 on the current gen home systems.

Their solution is to release all the games bundled into two separate releases. The first will have half of he games and the second (which hasn't been announced yet but you know is coming) will have the last few entries. Cash grab much SE? In reality, a good solution for fans looking forward to KH3 when it finally gets announced but an obvious cash grab nonetheless.

Capcom has been known to squeeze as much out of their fan base as possible for years. All you have to do is look at Street Fighter 2 for that. Numerous titles that had little changes were released until you ended up with Super Duper Mega Max Roided Street Fighter Hyper Turbo 2. That trend has continued with every SF since. They'll add a couple of characters, make it move a little faster, or add a tag-team mode and then charge you another $60 bucks.

Resident Evil has evolved in the last few entries. RE4 is arguably the best in the series and is the first to change from the tank style gameplay to more of a first person shooter. Though RE4 was a huge change in the series, horror was still a large part of the game. Action was slowly easing its way into the series but RE4 still managed to be true to its spirit. Dark settings, puzzle solving, and fear of what would be coming for you next were big parts of the game.

Then came RE5. Action took over and you were stuck with an AI partner in a bright, day setting. While not a bad game in the least, RE was no longer a series that tried to freak you out. It was an action series with freaky elements. Great if you're all about shooting things all over the place, gun fights on the back of a jeep, and having someone partner up with you during the campaign. Not so great if you're looking for something to play with the lights off with no one around. The hope from many fans was for the Capcom to take these complaints to heart and bring back some of the things that made us fall in love with the series.

Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to play RE6 yet, but from everything I've read on video game sites and on this board, Capcom once again dropped the ball. RE6 has gotten ratings from 39/40 from Famitsu to 3/10 from Destructoid with all kinds of different scores in between. It seems like Capcom made a huge game that tries to please everyone by adding numerous campaigns, but ended up with a mess of a game suffering an identity crisis. They're too busy trying to fill their own pockets by catering to the masses and what is popular today-shooting games.

I don't have a problem with these companies trying to be successful, they're a business after all. But they're ruining great franchises that people loved to try to capitalize on different markets. They're progressively getting worse and they couldn't care less because their games still sell.

I don't think I'll be buying RE6 any time soon, if I buy it at all. I'm hoping people decide to not buy the game and show Capcom that they need to change the route they have taken this series. As long as people keep buying these games, Capcom and SquareEnix will continue to destroy these great franchises.

End rant. Phone Post

Capcom is awesome because they refuse to use the perfect controls every other game in the world uses, and instead go with their own 100% shit control schemes in game after game for three generations now.

Isn't Sleeping Dogs from Square Enix? Or did they just publish it?

LindeUsesMyMouthAsAToilet - 


I don't really play Capcom or Square Enix games, but it sounds like they've gone the way of DICE. Money>Fans


At least BF3 is playable

RE6 is a FRANCHISE KILLER

orcus -

Capcom is awesome because they refuse to use the perfect controls every other game in the world uses, and instead go with their own 100% shit control schemes in game after game for three generations now.

Isn't Sleeping Dogs from Square Enix? Or did they just publish it?

Sleeping Dogs was originally developed by Activision Blizzard under True Crime: Hong Kong (or something like that)but was cancelled due to rising costs. SquareEnix picked up the publishing rights 6 months later and renamed it Sleeping Dogs. So, IMO it doesn't really count as one of their hits. Phone Post

i could save capcom or square enix or sega for that matter.

the problem is managment is completly out of touch with reality. same as with sega, which is also going to the way of the dodo.

look at nintendo. nintendo gets it. they release the new mario for wiiu and it is 2D with 1080p graphics. it will sell shitloads.

the biggest mistake sega,square enix, and capcom are doing is that they want to follow the big games like call of duty uncharted, halo etc. but that is not what we expect from the japanese companies. we expected them to stay true to their roots and use the new power of the consoles for 1080p 2d animated graphics.

there is no way any company like sega, capcom, or square enix can create a better game then call of duty, battlfield uncharted. so dont fucking try to copy it.

just look at nintendo. they stay to their roots and create the most amazing things. 2D or 3D it wont matter. it will sell truck loads.

so what capcom should have done is made a resident evil true to part1,2,3. with a new story and only add co op. that is enough. people will buy shitloads of copies and everybody is happy. hardcore fanbase happy. newcomers happy.

Well put OP. I wasn't sure if Square/Capcom games I loved as a kid were getting crappy or I was just out growing their style of games.

Dude I just bought RE6 and think its actually really good. Phone Post

I'm looking forward to Hitman Phone Post

Can't really disagree with anything you said, and that makes me really sad considering how much I loved Squaresoft games and Enix games . Although I do think FFX was right after the merger and was released under Square-Enix, and that's my favorite entry in the series. Phone Post

Totally agree regarding Square-Enix (don't really play Capcom). I keep buying FF games because of my loyalty to the series but 10 was the last great one. Phone Post

Was really looking forward to RE6 and got it three days ago. Played the first chapter and it's like I'm playing a whole different game. It succs real bad and I give it a 2/10. Phone Post

the japanese game industry has been declining for a while now. It's a shame because they used to make the best games in the world.

C Willy - Dude I just bought RE6 and think its actually really good. Phone Post

On xbox? Phone Post

Though, wouldn't you think if people weren't into the FF sequels and spinoffs, those game sales and ratings would be poor and the company would learn that it doesn't work? Phone Post

40oztofreedom - Though, wouldn't you think if people weren't into the FF sequels and spinoffs, those game sales and ratings would be poor and the company would learn that it doesn't work? Phone Post

Had typed up a long response and the stupid thing didn't post.

In a nutshell, IMO it's fan loyalty. The video game industry enjoys an amazing amount of fan loyalty, even if the product is subpar. Look at the Madden's and Call of Duty games.

Not bad games by any stretch but year to year, are these games so different that they warrant slapping a $60 tag on them? Gamers are just too loyal. Phone Post

couldnt agree any more with what the OP says

especially capcom, how far have they fallen that they ignore the actual fans of the franchise

Not to mention square Enix is killing dragon quest the most hardcore Japanese rpg series. I agree with everything being said about capcom and square

Mexirican - 
orcus -

Capcom is awesome because they refuse to use the perfect controls every other game in the world uses, and instead go with their own 100% shit control schemes in game after game for three generations now.

Isn't Sleeping Dogs from Square Enix? Or did they just publish it?

Sleeping Dogs was originally developed by Activision Blizzard under True Crime: Hong Kong (or something like that)but was cancelled due to rising costs. SquareEnix picked up the publishing rights 6 months later and renamed it Sleeping Dogs. So, IMO it doesn't really count as one of their hits. <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>

 

Square picked up a game that was a piece of shit and had been pulled from production.. took the engine and completely rebuilt it.  Sleeping Dogs is nothing like the True Crime game they purchased.

 

RML - 
Mexirican - 
orcus -

Capcom is awesome because they refuse to use the perfect controls every other game in the world uses, and instead go with their own 100% shit control schemes in game after game for three generations now.

Isn't Sleeping Dogs from Square Enix? Or did they just publish it?

Sleeping Dogs was originally developed by Activision Blizzard under True Crime: Hong Kong (or something like that)but was cancelled due to rising costs. SquareEnix picked up the publishing rights 6 months later and renamed it Sleeping Dogs. So, IMO it doesn't really count as one of their hits. <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>

 

Square picked up a game that was a piece of shit and had been pulled from production.. took the engine and completely rebuilt it.  Sleeping Dogs is nothing like the True Crime game they purchased.


 


Side by side comparison of both games:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMrzXzKdJU

While this is a VERY short clip, the game looks pretty similar to me, besides the SE version being "prettier." SE had the blueprint of a game that Activision basically gave up on. SE has always been known to make great looking games, I just think the quality of gameplay, story, etc. have fallen of.

FF13 was the last straw for me with S-E. I didn't buy FF13-2 and I won't be buying Lightning Returns, either. I will check out FF14 when/if it finally comes out for the PS3 because I played 11 for many years and really enjoyed it, and from what I understand the 2.0 version of 14 is going to be in the same vein.

Their games just don't have the same feeling to them anymore. 13 was a disgusting mess of uninteresting/annoying characters, fucking terrible dialogue, and auto-pilot gameplay.

Looking back at my favourite titles it's clear that they were made at a time when the Japanese companies didn't care about trying to make "western" games, they just wanted to make good games.