McChado.
And I started at a McChado gym. They made you pay for gradings. It was the reason I left. $30 for a stripe. I kept missing them until they told me I had to do one and that's when I left. Was a decent bunch of guys but you really don't know how good other gyms are until you actually start training at other gyms to compare
GB Dave Jr - I wonder if this kid had to pay $2000 for his black belt like Jordan did.....
No, since it was for a Jr Black Belt Carlos only tried to shake the kid for $1,500
GB DAVE Jr. ------ Correction........Jordan didnt pay the $2000 ( whether or not he actually was asked to or not is definitely contencious and seems to be the subject matter of numerous threads) .....so he does NOT have a BJJ black belt. He also does not have the Pittman Black belt. From my understanding of the situation by the numerous threads, Jordan appears to wear a McTabor belt, forged by blood, sweat, and talk to himself. Appears to be a legend in his own mind. Recognised by every major governing body in Martial Arts such as ............IBFBB (International Brotherhood of Fake black Belts).
The kid, however, was at least presented his belt by a legitimate BJJ black belt (at least 2 degree as recognized by all governing bodies) and a Pittman black belt.
I would have to defer to some of the more knowlegable black belts on here such as Shen or Dojo Stormer, Furacao, Judoinmotion, ietc.....but Ii think the kid is actually more legitimate based on the following:
1) Kid is presented a PITTMAN black belt (although no such belt exists for his age by BJJ standards) by a Black belt of at least second degree which does meet the crieria for presentation.
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Tabor presents himself a BJJ black belt. Some of his story says someone else presented to him ..but that individual did NOT (nor does not presently) meet the IBJJF ( or any other governing bodies crieria for presentation of the black belt) standards for grading.
2) Kid is under 18, so will revert back to a lower grade BJJ belt when minimum age is met as per IBJJF standard. ( although currently should be a green belt....maybe the belt is a Pittman and not BJJ belt).
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Tabor is wearing a black belt ( NOT BJJ or Pittman as he does not meet the standards for promotion/grading) and will not put on the correct color as per IBJJF standards and therefore will never be accepted by IBJJF ( or other governing body as black belt).
3) The kid has not had to "make a case" in regards to his belt as his instructor (Pittman) and BJJ master (Machado) have defended their system and his rank as legitimate for what they intend to do although not quite in line with the standard for IBJJF. He is obviously a Pittman black belt, and could be a BJJ black belt upon meeting the IBJJF criteria in the future if Machado says " you are now a BJJ black belt" when he turns 19....he will be "legit' at that time.
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Mr. Tabor has not one instructor, BJJ master, Martial Arts governing body thta can or will vouch for him. He will NEVER be recognized as a BJJ black belt by any governing body due to his "self promotion". He will continue to argue he was promoted, however, it has been pointed out the guy he claims promoted him is NOT legal to do so and does NOT meet the minimum qualifications to do so even if he did meet the other criteria for BJJ black belt.
Anyway....I think the call by several forum members to remove Tabor from black belt (gray name etc.) status should be removed as requested and allow "the kid" to join as a black belt ( gray name, etc). based not only on my arguments above, but he has legitimate(second degree or higher/ and Pittman himself for the Pittman belt) guys (albiet small technicalities as far as BJJ or Pittman) vouching for him !
"I don't think that this is the way we should treat children in our art. Some kid gets a black belt, you say 'Congratulations' and move along. He can have sparkles and gold stars on it for all I care." - Fake black belt Jordan Tabor re: kids getting black belts in bjj
Jordan Tabor - The integrity of the art, whatever that means, is not more important than your integrity as a person. What sort of man gets into a pissing contest with a child?Integrity as a person says the guy who promoted himself. Get out of here fake black belt Jordan Tabor.