Charles Gracie WTF????

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[quote author=Denny Prokopos
link=topic=42169.msg578740#msg578740 date=1111506238]

Hello guys my name is Denny Prokopos I am 17 years old and I am a
former student of Charles Gracie. Basically I am going to make a long
story short. I was at the Gracie open this weekend and right after
watching the last super fight of the event I decided to leave. I left my
girlfriend in the stand and I went to purchase a DVD at one of the
booths. After I bought the DVD I passed by my instructor who is Marco
Nascimento who was talking to Charles Gracie at the time to tell him
goodbye and that I was leaving the event. As I was walking past mat
two Charles Gracie comes up to me and say’s I need to talk to you. I
agree and we got my instructor Marco and we went where the trainer
area that was near the exit. We then began to talk and he accused me
of talking smack about him behind his back. And I told him that I
wasn’t which is true. I then ask Charles who the individual was and
then he replies to me by saying I don’t know the who the guy is guy
etc. after that I bring up a valid point to him and tell him that he once
told me “don’t believe what you hear but what you hear and see for
yourself”. We (Charles, Marco, and myself) then went outside because
Charles felt that there were too many people to hear what we were
talking about. After basically answering no and that I never have talk
smack about him which I haven’t. I then ask him why he called me a
“creonte” to Marco he then went on to say that he didn’t want what
happened to him to happen to Marco. I then reply by saying what
happened to you I used to teach you kids classes, I used to train your
son, or was it that I was the only one representing your name at
competitions, and paying to train at your academy on top of all that,
Charles has no reply. He then bring up that I “taught you everything
you know” etc. I then respond to him by saying you didn’t teach me
everything I know Oliver and Jamie ( who are two former brown belts
of his) taught me about 85 percent of what I know then the rest was
you and who ever else I trained with at your academy. Which is true
because I then tell Charles if you were to look back at my competition
footage you would see what I used. Charles then calls me a mother
f*cker charges up to me get me in a clinch snaps my head down real
hard and almost locks me up in a front headlock/guillotine. I then push
him at the hips before he can lock his grip and as I am backing out he
tried to kick me in the face but thank god that my instructor Marco
Nascimento who pushed him out of the way. I then ran into the gym
called the cops and they came. The cops then interviewed me I tell
them what happened and they did not arrest him because there were
no visible marks and Marco also did not want to talk to the cops. That
is basically what happened.

              Denny Prokopos

If this is true. That is VERY fucked up.

ttt for confirmation.

I am only passing on this which I read the ongoing discussion on
jiujitsugear forum..If it is true, just another disappointment..

not a good look to be roughing up a kid. even if you were told, he was talking smack. isn't charles brothers with ralph and ryan?

yup Charles is the oldest of the brothers..Renzo, Ralph and Ryan

Charles Gracie acting like Ryan Gracie..........

Hey Toughguy, Frank Shamrock talked shit about you too.

Why didn't you "confront" him??????

Huh?

Frank Shamrock apparently spoke smack about Charles, but Charles
didn't take him up on it or call him out...

If my instructor watched another instructor assault me and not do to much about it I would find another instructor.

"Don't support these egotistical brazilian pricks"

Dont confuse all Brazilians with the Gracies.

Goddammit dude, use paragraphs. That looks interesting but I'm not going to try reading it a third time.

"Plus the teacher that lets someone attack his student and doesn't back him up to the police is piece of shit."

That's what I was thinking.

ummm, because he got assualted? (and keep in mind he's a 17 year old kid getting assaulted by an adult jiujitsu blackbelt)

I just think its the generation that came here from Brazil...in Brazil you grow up settling shit with your fists....when the next generation of gracies (that were born or raised in america) come into power, i believe theyll have there shit together much much better

Are there more "Loose Cannons" in the Gracie family then not?  What a shame.

I love this shit. Charles Gracie attacks a 17 year old. And uses BJJ to do it!

"Are there more "Loose Cannons" in the Gracie family then not? What a shame."

Not so much. Seems to be just Robsons kids. ie, Ryan, Ralph & Charles. Even then I've never heard about Ryan starting shit with someone for no reason. Think about how many Gracies there are, and then about how many you hear about doing stuff like this.

personally i feel like any time a woman or a minor is attacked, the police should be contacted.

charles was acting like a prick throughout the tournament.

When Gracies attack tonight at 11

What's Denny I met you at Marcos academy couple weeks ago. The worse part about this entire things is Charles is like 50 and Denny's is teenager. Another example of Instructors settig pooor example for the sport at large events. Not unlike Ralph punching Bobby on Crutches at another Gracie Open. My suggestion is just to put this behind and be thankfult hat yoru current instructor is a cool guy.