Some observations about the Saulo Ribeiro's "Running Escape":
http://www.geocities.com/global_training_report/2006_GTR_update.htm#revolution
cool information!
That was really interesting.
Hold on here! I thought I created the Running Escape!
Actually, I really liked this article and its sort of gives an indicator as to the power of these new moves and who is using them. Great stories....
I promise you the "running escape" seem to be a variation or Bjj's version of a common freestyle wrestling pin escape
I dont think Saulo claims to invent it. I think he is just a guy who uses it and teaches it.
Someone is claiming its novelty:
"never before seen techniques like the amazing X-Pass and Running Escape."
I learned it from Relson years ago.
I think you guys should wait until you see exactly what it entails, including variations. I hadnt seen it in its entirety prior to the new set.
Guys, the question is have you seen it on DVD? It's great that you've learned it in class; you are fortunate people. For most though, the whole point of DVDs is if you have no teacher or are looking to learn techniques your teacher hasn't taught you.
The similar escapes I've seen have been the ones on the crappy 'Jacare' Cavalcanti set and FJKDII. And even then, the issue of how to prevent the guy taking your back wasn't discussed in much detail.
It's nice to see an escape to the 'both hands near side' side control that seems simple and practical. I've never been able to get the shrimp and use your knee to break his leg grip escape to work.
""never before seen techniques like the amazing X-Pass and Running Escape.""
He is refering to it never being seen on DVD.
It would be stupid to assume hes implying its never been seen or showed on the mat somewhere.
It's not so much that they are new positions, but it's the details, sequences, and variations that are shown which make it worth taking a look at. I was doing the S-Mount, Running Escape, and the X-Pass 8-10 years ago (they didn't have cool names then). I don't think there are too many positions that are "new" these days, but there are many good variations, setups, and details being developed every day.
James
Personally I don't care if Saulo just made it up, or if someone knew it before, or whatever, but as long as it can help my game. The previous Saulo set with gi helped me so I think this one is worth a look.
"I Respect All Styles"
Yeah I've seen a lot of similar or even the same moves Saulo shows before, but rarely is it on dvd and if it is they usually don't explain all the details well so that you can actually use it.
"There is NOTHING new under the sun...
...Is there a thing which it is said 'See this is new'? It has been ALREADY in the ages before us."
People who complain about "new techniques" and say that everything has been done before are always stuffy old men, judoka and/or m.g.
"People who complain about "new techniques" and say that everything has been done before are always stuffy old men, judoka and/or m.g."
LOL!!! I'm not complaining I am just stating a fact.
Consider this. Alot of times Bjj instructors will search and study techniques from different grappling styles such as wrestling (or even particular individuals from various styles of grappling including Bjj), modify them to suit their needs and then teach them to their students making it seem like either they discovered them or invent them or it has been apart of Bjj all along.
People then will applaud the instructor for his "creativity" or "innovativeness". Well give credit where credit is due. Also instructors should encourage their students to research and study techniques and individual grapplers of other styles on their own so that these students won't think certain people "created", "discovered", or made revolutionary innovation to everything!
"He is refering to it never being seen on DVD."
I know, I was being a bitch. It happens.
I'll tell you guys a funny story.
I used to train with Gokor and Gene LeBell before really getting into BJJ. After switching to BJJ, I dropped by Gene's house to watch a UFC or something. I mentioned to Gene that I had learned a cool "new" choke in BJJ. He told me to grab a gi from his closet and put it on one of the guys there so I could show him the choke. I did.
He then told me to grab one of the old judo books he wrote in the 50's or 60's. He told me to turn to page X. There was Gene doing the same choke, in black and white.
All bets are off when the conversation rolls around to Judo Gene, the man has seen it all.
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