Submissable - It's should never be about the belt completely. It's about being the best. This mentality is what delayed May vs Paq and many other fights. Do you wanna know how good you are? Do you want to know how you stack up against your equal? If you can dig for that little extra to beat someone with more skill than you? Fuck the belt. The belt goes on your mantel to look at. What do you see in the mirror?
I think that his logic is that "I can only fight the people who are available". Jon Jones isn't his white whale, he wants to be champion.
It's why Lawler isn't complaining about GSP being gone, you strive to be the Champion and can only beat the people that stand between you and that goal.
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All we ever heard here was how Hendricks was a paper champion because he didn't beat GSP for the belt (even though he actually did).
Funny how opinions change based on the popularity of the fighter involved.
Just like the title didn't mean anything for Holyfield to win it off of Buster Douglas, as opposed to Mike Tyson.
Not the same you dope! Buster Douglas legitimately won that title! Jones got stripped! He's still the real champ, still the best LHW! FACT!
Boom.
Plus Jones has already beaten DC. If they had never fought before it wouldn't be as big a deal but as we all saw Jones handled DC with relative ease.
Cormier is saying all the right things but he's a real competitor, he'll know deep down that he can't consider himself the real champ until he beats Jones.
No. If I was to fight for the belt I would want it to be the man who won it and defended it. Jones is that man. Yes I'd take the shot but I'd want it different.
Submissable - It's should never be about the belt completely. It's about being the best. This mentality is what delayed May vs Paq and many other fights. Do you wanna know how good you are? Do you want to know how you stack up against your equal? If you can dig for that little extra to beat someone with more skill than you? Fuck the belt. The belt goes on your mantel to look at. What do you see in the mirror?
Just means it is about the money. Rumble wants to beat Jones to win the belt because he wants that sense of pride and accomplishment. DC just wants to say he held the belt regardless of being the best. For that reason I would like to see Rumble win.
They should just put an asterisk on the belt. No matter what happens win lose or draw. DC lost to jones and Johnson never fought him. DC wins = getting rewarded for just losing to the champ
Submissable - It's should never be about the belt completely. It's about being the best. This mentality is what delayed May vs Paq and many other fights. Do you wanna know how good you are? Do you want to know how you stack up against your equal? If you can dig for that little extra to beat someone with more skill than you? Fuck the belt. The belt goes on your mantel to look at. What do you see in the mirror?
Does my post come off angry or something?
And why are some of you ignoring the first thing I said. Obviously the belt is an important accomplishment and symbol. But what happened to the guys who got into it to be the best? This isn't GSP retiring. This is someone being stripped and suspended and the #2 feeling he doesn't care as long as media calls him the champ for a year till Jones comes back and takes it. Congrats, it really is a big accomplishment and a story to be able to relive throughout your life. But what happened to "I can lick any man in this bar" (although it's ironic I use that line since its originator ducked black fighters). Maybe I have the wrong idea of what fighters should be like and it's even more of a business than a testing ground anymore and growing in that direction more everyday. That's fine but I don't have to like it. My favorite fighters will never be the ones who are only in it for the gold and not to beat the best. Fortunately there are still some of those warriors out there who do want to see who's the best on earth at their weight. I just wish those that didn't wouldn't own up to it. At least keep the facade going like the BS pre fight trash talk. My .02
AndyWangPainTrain - No matter what, it's Jon's own doing that got his title taken away. Being the best means being the best in and out of the sport, and he obviously can't do one of those things, so the title having "no legitimacy" is bullshit.
C'mon man, do you really believe that being the best means you have to be the best both inside and outside the sport?? Since when? That sounds pretty ridiculous to me.
Submissable - It's should never be about the belt completely. It's about being the best. This mentality is what delayed May vs Paq and many other fights. Do you wanna know how good you are? Do you want to know how you stack up against your equal? If you can dig for that little extra to beat someone with more skill than you? Fuck the belt. The belt goes on your mantel to look at. What do you see in the mirror?
The belt comes with a lot more money in Mma, so it is silly to have a fuck the belt mentality.
no one is saying to say that exactly though. or that these guy shouldnt fight.
they should just acknowledge that its for a interim/substitute/consolation belt.
dont try and push you are the best fighter in that division just cause you have that non title title because technically thats not true. if d.c. wins its a fact thats not true.