Another reason to hate on the CSAC.
From the article-
"California State Athletic Commission Assistant Executive Officer Bill Douglas notified the American Top Team heavyweight by mail on Tuesday that Silva’s license could be revoked if he chooses to fight outside the state’s jurisdiction while under suspension for alleged steroid use.
If Silva fights, Douglas said he’d recommend that the commission vote to revoke the Brazilian’s license at a Feb. 10 hearing in accordance with California’s Business and Professions Code. The commission could agree to revoke Silva’s license for one-year increments until it votes to reinstatement him, not revoke the license, or alter his suspension.
A revocation will be filed with the National Suspension Registry recognized by the Association of Boxing Commissions, which is currently comprised of 82 commissions and regulatory bodies throughout North America.
Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer said a license revocation from another state would be honored in his jurisdiction.
In addition, any licensee that aids Silva in violating his suspension will be subject to disciplinary action from the CSAC, said Douglas."
Fucked up IMO.
No, its they way it should be.
How's that fucked up? Sounds just about right to me.
It's not the 1st time. Hermes Franca was told the same thing. I don't really have a problem with it. How is it right for a fighter to use steroids and cheat in the US knowing they can go to Japan for their time suspended and return once their suspension is up?
Just for the record. I broke the story about Bill Douglas' reaction over a week ago. And I did several follow-up stories allowing Silva's management to respond.
EliteXC Champ Silva Mulls Fights in Sengoku, CSAC Warns Against It
Posted by Jason F. Hatcher on November 20th, 2008
rtwil2007 - It's not the 1st time. Hermes Franca was told the same thing. I don't really have a problem with it. How is it right for a fighter to use steroids and cheat in the US knowing they can go to Japan for their time suspended and return once their suspension is up?
True, but when Vitor ignore the warnings and fought in the UK nothing happened to him when he did apply for a new license.
Sounds spot on to me. He's stupid if he does it, else he never plans on returning to the NA to fight anyway.
Hodrigo - True, but when Vitor ignore the warnings and fought in the UK nothing happened to him when he did apply for a new license.
Vitor snuck through a loophole. His license expired, so NSAC felt no need to revoke it. Therefore, when he reapplied with CSAC, there was no red flag on his file for avoiding the Nevada suspension.
By revoking Silva's license, CSAC has closed that loophole. If he ever tries to fight in the USA again, the SAC of whatever state the card is in will see that his license was revoked and consult CSAC for the reason.
Kudos to CSAC for making sure that cheaters have to pay the price for their actions.
Nobody does steroids, its all a conspiracy. also everyone that pleads "not guilty" in criminal cases are really "not guilty", they are just being wrongly prosecuted.
Is it just me or does Sherk's physique look different from before he was busted for injecting roids? How is that possible when he was framed? Does being framed and denying steroid use really reduce muscle mass?
This is 100% the way suspension are supposed to work. Otherwise, a suspended fighter (for brain trauma, drug use, etc) just goes to the next State.
The CSAC should randomly test the combined land mass of Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey for banned substances. Frankly, I think the results would be upsetting to the land mass of Greece and most of the Aegean Sea.
Absolutely the right thing to do.
Kirik - This is 100% the way suspension are supposed to work. Otherwise, a suspended fighter (for brain trauma, drug use, etc) just goes to the next State.
Yep.
Isn't that pretty much how Douglas Dedge died?
He couldn't get licensed in the USA for medical reasons so he went to the Ukraine to get fights in a non-sanctioned environment.
big time failure.
Steve4192 - Isn't that pretty much how Douglas Dedge died?
He couldn't get licensed in the USA for medical reasons so he went to the Ukraine to get fights in a non-sanctioned environment.
That's how I remember it. Dedge was (or at least 'had been') a boxer, and couldn't pass his medicals to continue fighting in the states.
Also - it does not matter that Silva's suspension was for steroids. Commissions would revoke a license if a fighter was under medical suspension and fought in another jurisdiction, too.
I agree with most of what is being said here, how ever, I need to keep on hammering away at the fact that, although we provided substantial evidence that Antonios test was indeed a false positive, and that we could provide even further evidence to substantiate it, and the CSAC even agreed that the positive could have been caused by the Suplement Novedex, which does cause false positive for Boldenone, and we also provided a second urine test that was negative, that would not have been so had Antonio used Boldenone due the long life in the body, reminding everyone that Antonio faught in FL agaisnt Ricco in late Feb, was tested, and the test was negative, had he used Boldenone, he still would be testing positive! Regardless of all this, they still upheld the suspension!! Shit, they could of asked for further evidence, they could have done a lot of things to make sure they were not punnishing Antonio unjustly. In reality, they went into that appeal hearing, with their decision taken, and that is wrong, anyway you look at it!
The rest, about fighting outside the country, while under suspension, I get it, I understand that this undermines there authority, but, according to some very smart legal minds, lagaly, they cant do it, their jurisdiction is California, not the world. At the end of the day, its Antonios decision, he knows the pros and cons, and in his head, he didnt take anything, hes innocent, and he would rather fight in Japan for ever than keep on paying for something he didnt do.
What is obvious though, is that the whole system is full of holes, there is ample evidence that the CSAC was doing things in a way that has nothing to do with what an athletic comission is supposed to do, which is regulate and enforce the regulations of a sport in an unbiased, professional and fair way!
Prepare2Die - How's that fucked up? Sounds just about right to me.
Why should the a regulatory body of California even give two shits what this guy does outside of California. Its thier job to make sure he does not get any sanctioned fights in California. Thats it. Why does California care what he does in Japan or Brazil or wherever? It is no business of thiers.
Its like saying a Florida state trooper should be able to pull over and cite a motorist on the autobahn (sp?) because on the interstates in Florida the speed limit is 70.
If you want these fighters to be regulated globaly, use the world anti-doping agency or something of that nature.
Steve4192 -Kirik - This is 100% the way suspension are supposed to work. Otherwise, a suspended fighter (for brain trauma, drug use, etc) just goes to the next State.
Yep.
Isn't that pretty much how Douglas Dedge died?
He couldn't get licensed in the USA for medical reasons so he went to the Ukraine to get fights in a non-sanctioned environment.
That is his stupid fault. He did it knowingly under his own free will.
Adam98SVT -Prepare2Die - How's that fucked up? Sounds just about right to me.
Why should the a regulatory body of California even give two shits what this guy does outside of California. Its thier job to make sure he does not get any sanctioned fights in California. Thats it. Why does California care what he does in Japan or Brazil or wherever? It is no business of thiers.
Its like saying a Florida state trooper should be able to pull over and cite a motorist on the autobahn (sp?) because on the interstates in Florida the speed limit is 70.
No, it's more like when you get your drivers license suspended in Connecticut, you can't drive in New York either. Makes sense.