It is clearly in the advantage of Dana White and the UFC to have Randy Couture back in the scene, and contending for the title. Couture is already an MMA legend, 46 yrs. old, and identiable by the general public and the mainstream media. Perhaps White made a deal with the judges, i.e bribes, to give a close decision to Couture? Vera is a solid fighter, but not very recognizable or well known.
The fight clearly should have been judged as a draw or gone to a 4th round, if the rules called for it.
This decision is reminiscent of the old days of boxing, when organized crime controlled the fighters and the commissions. These times were marked by countless fixed fights and crooked judging.
WTF is up with all this draw nonsense. Vera won the fight, clearly. He did all the damage and hurt Couture in every round, almost finishing him in 2, could have also in 3. I wish Brandon had jumped on him when he had those opportunities but I believe he thought he had the fight in the bag, as did I. Vera won that fight easily. There should be no talk of a draw. There need only be talk of fixing the Goddamn bullshit scoring system. That decision would have never gone to Randy in Pride. UFC is really pissing me off lately. I can't even believe people were giving Randy round 1. HE DID NOTHING, literally nothing. Stalling is not octagon control, or at least it definitely should not be.
Octagon control ia bullshit scoring factor anyway. It's completely subjective and just plain retarded.
In my opinion it is much more likely that the judges personal feelings affected the decision. People are quick to scream “corruption!” , but I think maybe Randy being the more popular more beloved fighter the judges didn’t want to be the ones to award what they may have felt was a close decision to the less popular fighter.
There probably is corruption involved. A Couture win definitely lines him up for another PPV headline and thus another big payday for the UFC. I'll put it this way. The UFC definitely wanted Couture to win, and they appointed the judges, and the decision was plain retarded. Yeah corruption seems pretty obvious.
AlbertEinstein - The UFC definitely wanted Couture to win, and they appointed the judges, and the decision was plain retarded.
I know in the states the Athletic commission appoints the judges. I would seriously doubt the UFC appointed the judges for this fight, but I don't know. Who appoints the judges for fights out of the States?
PRIDE rules Randy loses every time. He made no attempts to finish the fight and did no damage.
God I miss Pride. UFC sucks now. I usually rewatch the fights after every PPV, several times usually, but last night left such a bad taste in my mouth I don't even want to go back to watch it. And in fact I'm not even excited about the next UFC like I usually am. Can't wait for the next Strikeforce though.
Clinton Tyler -AlbertEinstein - The UFC definitely wanted Couture to win, and they appointed the judges, and the decision was plain retarded.
I know in the states the Athletic commission appoints the judges. I would seriously doubt the UFC appointed the judges for this fight, but I don't know. Who appoints the judges for fights out of the States?
As far as I've heard, there is no athletic commission so the UFC brings their own judges.
AlbertEinstein -Clinton Tyler -AlbertEinstein - The UFC definitely wanted Couture to win, and they appointed the judges, and the decision was plain retarded.
I know in the states the Athletic commission appoints the judges. I would seriously doubt the UFC appointed the judges for this fight, but I don't know. Who appoints the judges for fights out of the States?
As far as I've heard, there is no athletic commission so the UFC brings their own judges.
Wow, I am very surprised at the info I was able to find.
http://www.lvrj.com/sports/7060367.html
The above article talks about the former Nevada state athletic commissioner quitting to work for the UFC and how he appointed the ref's and the judge's for the first show in Manchester.
I still don't believe corruption is the cause, but it should be looked at as a possibility.
Oh, and blue namer please. ^^
The fightmetric numbers, even if true which I have a hard time believing, are meaningless because Randy never hurt Vera, not once. Most of his strikes were from the clinch and very weak. Meanwhile Vera cracked Randy and hurt him in every single round, nearly finishing him more than once.
LOL at this stupidity.
Vera did not do shit for most of the fight.
Why would dana want an aging ledgend to fight bs a young and exciting contender?
I agree I thought Vera won the fight, but have we really not seen more outrageous decisions than this? And can we please stop the idiocy about the UFC fixing the fight or compelling the judges to give the nod to Couture? Clearly these are arguments of people who think Zuffa is the devil. Cause if this would have been a Strikeforce event, Vera certainly would have won.
Although Vera did more damage and was WAY more exciting, under the current judgingI think Randy won the fight. Personally I think the judging criteria should have been changed because IMO Vera should get the W for that, but Randy did control the fight almost the entire time. It's a hard fight to judge because Randy did almost nothing but Vera was controlled teh whole time. Personally I would like to see something added to the rules to help minimize stalling. Maybe not yellow cards but something similar.
I think it's a stretch to assume the Fertitas would be silly enough to do something which not only risks their investment in the UFC but also their gambling license which means they'd have to leave the casino business.
Yeah and poker sites would never cheat because they make too much money as it is. You people are too trusting. I'm a cynic. If they think there is no risk, a situation that isn't terribly hard to imagine, then there is no reason they wouldn't do it. It's not like they really care about the integrity of the sport.
Wow you really have no idea how logic works.
Look people said the same thing about online poker gambling sites. They would never cheat because they are raking in millions every day doing it legit. Well guess what. There have been several online cheating scandals including some pretty big name sites. All you have to do is find 3 judges that they could pay off and that would keep quiet, and there is no risk. 3 people. Considering their connections to various SAC's, that is not beyond the realm of possibility.
Edit: Actually they would only need to get to 2 judges to get the decision they wanted. But yeah, no one involved in with any of the SAC's is involved with any form of corruption in any way, shape, form, or manner. Yeah, lol.
I don't think they paid 3 judges to give Randy the decision, but I could imagine them giving some judging "tips." Like if it's a close round, give it to Randy.
Yeah just like the boxing association's would never risk their licenses either. That's why boxing is corruption-free.