Dana White: Won't Make Freakshow out of Toney

I hope Buentello doesn't get the fight. He has never gone for a takedown and has decent boxing against MMA fighters. But against Toney, he would get straight up clowned. That would be a freakshow fight. If Toney has much better boxing than everyone, give him someone who has some strengths somewhere else.

At 205, I'd like to see him get fed someone he has a chance of beating and if that MMA fighter losses, it wouldn't be the end of the world and wouldn't cancel out a future contender. That would be guys like Tito, Hammil, Bonnar and Thiago Silva.

A guy like Buentello would tooled by a pro boxer.

Toney has a granite chin and KO power. NO UFC fighter can stand and bang with him. They have to take him down and submitt or GNP. Its not wise to exchange with him.

humphrey sphinctermuscle - yeah they'd never do a freak show, dana is way beyond that. right Kimbo?

and RJJ wanted to fight in the octagon but was told no, because had he won, it would have completely discredited the UFC belt.


How is Kimbo a freakshow? Dana said that the only way Kimbo would make the UFC was by going through the house. Yes, he lost...but he had a somewhat decent showing in that loss against a former IFL champion.

Then they threw him into the deep end against a dangerous Hosuton Alexander and it was Houston that made that fight boring.

Lastly, Kimbo had several fights outside the org before coming to the UFC.

Nobody is expecting Kimbo to be much more than a brawler, but he isn't what I would call a freakshow either.

That being said, I think Toney/Kimbo would be hilarous (as in funny when Toney KOs him in about 45 seconds).

 Then they threw him into the deep end against a dangerous Hosuton Alexander...

canuck34 - 
humphrey sphinctermuscle - yeah they'd never do a freak show, dana is way beyond that. right Kimbo?

and RJJ wanted to fight in the octagon but was told no, because had he won, it would have completely discredited the UFC belt.


How is Kimbo a freakshow? Dana said that the only way Kimbo would make the UFC was by going through the house. Yes, he lost...but he had a somewhat decent showing in that loss against a former IFL champion.

Then they threw him into the deep end against a dangerous Hosuton Alexander and it was Houston that made that fight boring.

Lastly, Kimbo had several fights outside the org before coming to the UFC.

Nobody is expecting Kimbo to be much more than a brawler, but he isn't what I would call a freakshow either.

That being said, I think Toney/Kimbo would be hilarous (as in funny when Toney KOs him in about 45 seconds).


two things

1. the mere fact that you can't understand how kimbo fucking slice is a freakshow really does give us a good idea just where your brain is at.

2. saying that he had a decent showing in his fight in TUF shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Bonedog - I know the perfect guy to crush Toney.

Big Country Roy Nelson!

He won't dick around trying to box with him. He'll just take him down and do have his way with him. He's got a solid chin, so Toney would have to land clean to put him down. Toney would likely only have one chance before being taken down and tooled.

How much more emphatically can you prove the point than by having a big blubbery sloppy looking mid-pack mma heavyweight tool a former champion of the sweet science. Also if by some miracle Toney managed to win it's no great loss for Dana. He doesn't seem to much like Nelson anyway.

If it is his goal to embarass Toney, Big Cuntry would be perfect.

HAving kimbo on a free fight night card is not "freakshow" having him as the headliner is freakshow.

humphrey sphinctermuscle - 
canuck34 - 
humphrey sphinctermuscle - yeah they'd never do a freak show, dana is way beyond that. right Kimbo?

and RJJ wanted to fight in the octagon but was told no, because had he won, it would have completely discredited the UFC belt.


How is Kimbo a freakshow? Dana said that the only way Kimbo would make the UFC was by going through the house. Yes, he lost...but he had a somewhat decent showing in that loss against a former IFL champion.

Then they threw him into the deep end against a dangerous Hosuton Alexander and it was Houston that made that fight boring.

Lastly, Kimbo had several fights outside the org before coming to the UFC.

Nobody is expecting Kimbo to be much more than a brawler, but he isn't what I would call a freakshow either.

That being said, I think Toney/Kimbo would be hilarous (as in funny when Toney KOs him in about 45 seconds).


two things

1. the mere fact that you can't understand how kimbo fucking slice is a freakshow really does give us a good idea just where your brain is at.

2. saying that he had a decent showing in his fight in TUF shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


Well, I guess all you can do is resort to insults.

Had Kimbo come straight to the UFC he would have been a freakshow. However, Kimbo had a few MMA fights, trained with Bas Rutten and others. I'm not saying Kimbo is a good fighter, but to call him a freakshow is pretty silly.

Also, I've been around this sport for a long time. I would have expected someone like Roy Nelson to take Kimbo out in about 30 seconds. He did a lot better than I expected. If you don't agree then you have no freaking clue what you are talking about.

lol ok man. kimbo isn't a freak show, and he did great against nelson.

ROFL. ok.

hubris - Kongo?


Kongo by sub. You heard it here first.

They should bring Pe De Pano back, have him fight Toney, sub him, and send his old ass packing. 100% risk free fight for the UFC.

humphrey sphinctermuscle - lol ok man. kimbo isn't a freak show, and he did great against nelson.

ROFL. ok.


Reading comprehension problems? Where did I say Kimbo did "great" against Roy? I said he had a "somewhat decent showing". Pretty big difference there Webster.

Magic8 -  Then they threw him into the deep end against a dangerous Hosuton Alexander...



Is Houston a world beater?? no. But he is a dangerous fight for anyone. Especially for Kimbo who got KO'd by an awkward retreating punch by Seth.

And if they really wanted to freakshow Kimbo, they could have matched him up more favorably in TUF to keep him in the running longer. But instead he got matched up with a very accomplished grappler which was pretty much a guaranteed loss for Kimbo.

 James Toney is going to get subbed or stopped, early and then complain it was bullshit. After that, he'll test positive again, and then the sport will look even dumber to the prospective fans,.

I would love seeing him against Anderson at 205.

RJJ was denied because he wanted a one fight deal vs Anderson Silva.

They are not going to match Toney up with the champ in 1 fight.. he'll get some probably solid but not world beating competition and then Dana can either show the limitations of boxing in MMA, or move Toney up to the top ranks deservedly.

Everyone keeps saying noone can stand with him. Maybe noone can trade hands with him but there are plenty of guys who can stand with him. Toney likes to block and shoulder roll and counter. That shits not gonna work against leg and head kicks.

michael254 - Everyone keeps saying noone can stand with him. Maybe noone can trade hands with him but there are plenty of guys who can stand with him. Toney likes to block and shoulder roll and counter. That shits not gonna work against leg and head kicks.


 Good point.  Plus there are no corners in the Octagon to get trapped in and clinching is legal.  A good kickboxer could give Toney some problems.

 I am really excited about this!



Go lights out!