Defending triangle shrugs

Strange title, eh?

Sometimes, against very strong opponents and especially in a sweaty, slippery no-gi situation, you start to apply a triangle choke from the guard, but your opponent manages to simply THROW your leg over his face. For example, if your right leg is across his neck and you've only got a half-sunk triangle, your opponent will use his left hand to push your right leg over his face. Fedor did this repeatedly against Nogueira.

How can you prevent this from happening, or at least minimize the chances?

Regards,

jonpall.

ttt

This happens to me if the opponent is strong and I become too predictable. I think if you cross your legs over them quickly they won't be able to do it though.

No, I don't think that's correct. I've crossed my ankles against guys that still managed to shrug my legs off and Mino crossed his ankles against Fedor.

Personally, I can think of 2 ways to counter this, but I don't know if they are the most efficient ways to go:

1. Simply set the triangle up in such a way that your leg that goes on top of his neck, goes OVER his bicep while you HOLD THAT WRIST out. A common thing to do here is get a whizzer on the other hand. Basically, here you immobilize the arm that could possibly throw your leg over his head.

2. Pull down on his head after locking in a half sunk triangle and keep your elbows close to each other. Now (in theory) your leg can't go over his head because your own forearm is blocking the way.

jonpall.

Right. If you control his left arm at the wrist by pushing it out or pinning it to his chest, he can't do that. If he's a strong Russian with freakish ground punching power, then it is tough any way you do it.

What did you think about idea number 2 as a "Russian freak counter"? :)

ttt

That works but at that point you have good control anyways. He is more likely to do it in the very early stages of the triangle.