DFW: I blame referee Dan Stell 100%

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UFC 139 was full of impressive MMA action, not all of it was conducted according to UFC president Dana White's liking.

White watched first-hand as referee Dan Stell was slow to halt a Chris Weidman D'Arce choke that rendered Tom Lawlor unconscious.

"You're a referee; You should know when somebody is out," White said at the UFC 139 post-event in press conference. "Get your ass in there and stop the fight. Same thing with the armbar Friday night in Las Vegas (Ronda Rousey vs. Julia Budd). Standing way over there while she's putting an armbar on? You get in there, and you stop the fight as soon as you can so these guys don't get hurt."

"I'm definitely not blaming (the ref)," Weidman said. "I can't really see what he was watching. I definitely felt him go out, and I was telling [Stell] that he was out, but as a ref, he can't believe what I'm saying because I could just be trying to get a cheap victory with that ... [Lawlor] was definitely out for a little long, but I'm glad that he's alright."

"I blame [Stell]," White said. "I blame him 100 percent."


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Well, Tom was obviously out while the ref was still deciding.

I agree with Dana. The guy wasn't ready for the UFC level, but not many are. Get Rob Hinds in there, he'll do a great job.

Dana is absolutely right here Phone Post

I can understand his comment about the armbar, but let's be honest regarding the choke. It takes a VERY long time to do any sort of damage choking someone out. While the norm is get in immediately, it's not a 911 crisis to do it under 2 seconds. He was fine there, and I actually think he was fine with the armbar. So often people get ref's calling fights short and bitching about it. I think I'd have shut that down quicker, but not much, it takes only a second to go from pain to broke/dislocated.

Immaculata - I agree with Dana. The guy wasn't ready for the UFC level, but not many are. Get Rob Hinds in there, he'll do a great job.


That's a silly statement. if a ref is ready to ref, it makes absolutely no difference how big or popular the event is. If a ref is scared to do his/her job in front of a crowd, they shouldn't be doing the job.

 GIf or it didn't happen..

If the hand isn't clearly broken has a ref ever stopped a fight before a tap when someone is working for an armbar?

Humphrey - 
Immaculata - I agree with Dana. The guy wasn't ready for the UFC level, but not many are. Get Rob Hinds in there, he'll do a great job.


That's a silly statement. if a ref is ready to ref, it makes absolutely no difference how big or popular the event is. If a ref is scared to do his/her job in front of a crowd, they shouldn't be doing the job.

I'll take the Pepsi challenge with my experience against yours in dealing with AC's. And my experience has shown me that AC's hire unqualified refs all the time, and it showed Saturday. There are levels that certain Refs have that others don't but there will be nothing done about it.

Immaculata - 
Humphrey - 
Immaculata - I agree with Dana. The guy wasn't ready for the UFC level, but not many are. Get Rob Hinds in there, he'll do a great job.




That's a silly statement. if a ref is ready to ref, it makes absolutely no difference how big or popular the event is. If a ref is scared to do his/her job in front of a crowd, they shouldn't be doing the job.


I'll take the Pepsi challenge with my experience against yours in dealing with AC's. And my experience has shown me that AC's hire unqualified refs all the time, and it showed Saturday. There are levels that certain Refs have that others don't but there will be nothing done about it.
well mr pepsi challenge, Dan Stell started as the head offical of IKF in 1998 the IKF is the organization he co-founded in 1992. So unless you think 13 years isn't enough experience, 'wasn't ready for the UFC' is a silly statement.  

fooller - If the hand isn't clearly broken has a ref ever stopped a fight before a tap when someone is working for an armbar?


 Yes, when fighters scream out in pain the fight has been stopped without a "tap" before. See Rhonda's last fight before this one.

Humphrey - well mr pepsi challenge, Dan Stell started as the head offical of IKF in 1998. So unless you think 13 years isn't enough experience, 'wasn't ready for the UFC' is a silly statement. 


 To be fair, Kickboxing experience probably doesn't factor too much in this particular debate on experience ;-)

 the guy stunk up the joint on Sat first this, then the fast stoppage/missed illegal shots in the Le -Silva fight.

Oh, snap! IMMACULATA is treatin fools! Phone Post

He didn't perform like a 13 yr. Vet.

guess you lose your pepsi challenge.

Humphrey - guess you lose your pepsi challenge.


 I don't think he lost the challenge.



Your rebuttal to him failing on a submission hold on an unconscious fighter was his 13 years of kickboxing  Referee experience???

Humphrey - guess you lose your pepsi challenge.

Your arguement is to defend a ref with just alot of KickBoxing experience? You liked the job he did on Sat?? Come on, man....

i don't think the refs should be to blame at all;

if you want to act like a hardass and not tap out to a choke or armlock or do a little ginger tap trying to get your opponent to let go without the ref seeing it then you deserve to go unconscious or get your elbow popped, IMO.