DFW: I don't want to see Nogueira fight ever again

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                    <p>Former PRIDE heavyweight champion&nbsp;Antonio Rodrigo&nbsp;Nogueira started fighting in 1999 and was never finished a single time in his first 37 fights. Not even Fedor could do it. But the fights took a toll, and he was not the same man when he entered the UFC in 2007. &quot;Big Nog&quot; has had nine fights in the UFC, and was finished in five of them.</p>

Fans love Big Nog. But sometimes in fighting, there comes a time when you love a fighter so much, you don't want to see him fight again.

At the TUF Nations Finale, UFC president Dana White said he wants Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira to retire.

Mike Chiappetta has the story for FOX Sports

"Out of respect for Nogueira, I didn't want to say anything until he said something publicly," White said. "Then he came out and said he wants to fight Frank Mir. I don't want to see Nogueira fight ever again. He should retire.

"He is a war horse. That guy has been in -- just the battles in PRIDE he's been in -- let alone the fights that he's fought in the UFC. He's one of the most respected fighters in the world by other fighters, let alone by fans. And I like him very much, too, so I wanted to give him the opportunity to say something first. And now I'm going to say, 'Big Nog, I love you, but I'd love you to never fight again.'"

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wow.... Can't say I'm surprised you said that Dana.

Big Nog said he wanted one more fight with Frank Mir as a retirement fight. What is so wrong with that?

If Frank is down then I'm down considering he himself is on a 4 fight losing streak.

Big Nog basically already said he would retire after 1 more Mir fight. There's no reason to come off as a dick and pour it on the guy.

Dana isn't being a dick, I mean what does one more fight for Nog going to mean at this point? Another concussion likely? Why would Dana want to be responsible for putting this guys health at risk when he has the power to not let him fight. His health is most important at this point. He's going to have some tough years as an older person with all the damage he's taken. Phone Post

Peace NoG! One of my first favorites! Phone Post 3.0

grkblood - wow.... Can't say I'm surprised you said that Dana.

Big Nog said he wanted one more fight with Frank Mir as a retirement fight. What is so wrong with that?

If Frank is down then I'm down considering he himself is on a 4 fight losing streak.

Big Nog basically already said he would retire after 1 more Mir fight. There's no reason to come off as a dick and pour it on the guy.
You crazy?!

If he wants a fight against someone who always ends up hurting him like Mir I think Dana should be even more worried about him fighting again Phone Post 3.0

Didn't he just fight in a main event?

Dana Stern - Dana isn't being a dick, I mean what does one more fight for Nog going to mean at this point? Another concussion likely? Why would Dana want to be responsible for putting this guys health at risk when he has the power to not let him fight. His health is most important at this point. He's going to have some tough years as an older person with all the damage he's taken. Phone Post
To be fair, the only one likely concussed after the last Mir fight was Mir.

Nog just got greedy and wound up with a broken arm for his troubles. Phone Post 3.0

Dana Stern - 

Dana isn't being a dick, I mean what does one more fight for Nog going to mean at this point? Another concussion likely? Why would Dana want to be responsible for putting this guys health at risk when he has the power to not let him fight. His health is most important at this point. He's going to have some tough years as an older person with all the damage he's taken. Phone Post


This quote just sounds very dickish to me:

'Big Nog, I love you, but I'd love you to never fight again.'

And none of it is even necessary. Yes, Mir did TKO Nog once before but Mir isn't exactly a heavy hitter. If you have a guy like Nog that wants one final send off fight who better for him to fight than someone he has history with who is also on a downward spiral himself? It's not like he's asking to fight JDS or Travis Browne.

Nog is asking for something perfectly reasonable. And if your argument is that Nog is punch drunk, Chuck was in a much worse position going into the Franklin fight than Nog would be going into a final Mir fight.

Mir and Nog are shells of themselves. Watching them fight a third time would be completely pointless, Nog fans just want to see a third fight because they are really butthurt Mir finished Nog brutally both times. Nog should fight in Brazil against someone out of the top 15 he matches up well against and then retire. Phone Post

Wasn't Mir the first one to TKO Big Nog? Then he Broke his arm cause the tough old S.O.B. wouldn't tap? I have all the respect in the world for the legend NOG. But damn I don't want to see him hurt again. And neither should Dana or any true Pride fans.

I wouldn't mind seeing Nog fight Mir in a retirement fight - one last chance to go out on a win and avenge those losses. Let's not forget that Mir is also well past his prime and is not going to KO him brutally like Nelson did. Nog would be the underdog for sure but probably only 2-1 or 2.5-1, so I think it's a reasonable match-up.

Out of respect for Nog, I say give him that last chance for glory.

I doubt Mir would be able to fight again without the trt.

grkblood -
Dana Stern - 

Dana isn't being a dick, I mean what does one more fight for Nog going to mean at this point? Another concussion likely? Why would Dana want to be responsible for putting this guys health at risk when he has the power to not let him fight. His health is most important at this point. He's going to have some tough years as an older person with all the damage he's taken. Phone Post


This quote just sounds very dickish to me:

'Big Nog, I love you, but I'd love you to never fight again.'

And none of it is even necessary. Yes, Mir did TKO Nog once before but Mir isn't exactly a heavy hitter. If you have a guy like Nog that wants one final send off fight who better for him to fight than someone he has history with who is also on a downward spiral himself? It's not like he's asking to fight JDS or Travis Browne.

Nog is asking for something perfectly reasonable. And if your argument is that Nog is punch drunk, Chuck was in a much worse position going into the Franklin fight than Nog would be going into a final Mir fight.
It wasn't. Let it go. Phone Post 3.0

Fighters should retire on a loss, when you go out on a win you still think you have it, even if you don't, Phone Post 3.0

I agree with Dana. Phone Post 3.0

Dana not having class and being douchey to a legend? No.... Phone Post 3.0

When most fighters start losing as bad as Nog has been, I'm usually one of the guys hoping for their retirement. I just don't want Nogueira to stop yet or to go out like that. I don't know I guess I'm just not ready to stop watching Nogueira fights, even if they're as irrelevant as Nogueira/Nelson, they all still capture that epic and nostalgic feeling for me.

For his health, retirement is probably smart. I would just love to see him go out on a win. Phone Post 3.0