DFW: Race has nothing to do with Jones popularity

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                    <p>On his latest podcast, UFC color commentator Joe Rogan speculated as to <a href="http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/447181/Rogan-How-much-of-Jones-lack-of-popularity-is-due-to-racism/" target="_blank">whether or not racism plays some role</a> in in the lack of popularity that UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones enjoys, relative to his extraordinary skill as a fighter.</p>

On the latest edition of UFC.com's weekly exclusive Dowload interview with UFC president Dana White, the league boss noted that Jones is indeed popular, and did not think race played a role in it.

“Who says Jones isn’t popular? I mean, as far as our business goes, Jones is very popular,” White said. “I think Joe is saying, ‘Why isn’t he this massive superstar? The guy is so talented, his brothers are two NFL players, etcetera, etcetera.’ There’s no doubt that Jon has had his share of issues since he’s been the champ, but I wouldn’t say that Jon Jones isn’t popular.”

“Mike Tyson is black. Muhammad Ali is black. LeBron James is black. There are a lot of guys out there that are black that people love. There’s people out there that don’t like them too. But you’re a human being, man. Some people are going to like you and some people aren’t. I’m white. There’s a lot of people that like me and a lot of people that don’t.”

Using Twitter followers as a very rough measure of popularity, Jones is indeed popular, with 930K followers. However, relative to other top UFC fighters, Jones' following does seem a little light.

1. Anderson Silva - 5.58 Million
2. Vitor Belfort - 1.24 Million
3. Minotauro Nogueira - 1.13 Million
4. Georges St-Pierre - 1.03 Million
5. Junior Dos Santos - 0.976 Million
6. Jon Jones - 0.930 Million
7. Chael Sonnen - 0.743 Million
8. Ronda Rousey - 0.654 Million
9. Shogun Rua - 0.625 Million
10. Wanderlei Silva - 0.614 Million

The most popular fighter in the UFC as measured by Twitter is Anderson Silva, a Brazilian of African descent, who has four times more followers than the #2 fighter, Vitor Belfort, a Brazilian of Portuguese descent. So if race is a factor in fighter popularity, it is certainly a minor one.

Nor does skill translate directly to popularity, as revealed by a list of Twitter followers for the UFC's top 10 pound for pound:
1. Jon Jones - 0.930 Million
2. Jose Aldo - 0.397 Million
3. Cain Velasquez - 0.436 Million
4. Demetrious Johnson - 0.080 Million
5. Chris Weidman - 0.330 Million
6. Anthony Pettis - 0.189 Million
7. Anderson Silva - 5.58 Million
8. Ronda Rousey - 0.654 Million
9. Renan Barao - 0.070 Million
10. Johny Hendricks - 0.181 Million

In the final analysis, it takes more than skill to be a massive superstar, and race doesn't seem to factor in much if at all.

For the record, Dana White has 2.93 followers, more than any fighter save Silva.

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If dana was black?..... Phone Post 3.0

Diplomatic answer. Well put (in terms of PR), and he's trying to put out a possible fire before it grows bigger. But racists will still foam at the mouth and insist they are not racists, and that they hate Jon Jones because of his "attitude" and other unconvincing excuses.

What if Chael Sonnen was black? The things he said were outrageous. Jon Jones was hated either way: when he was nice: "HE'S A PHONY! SHOW YOUR REAL SELF YOU FAKE!", then when he shows a more boastful, more aggressive side: "WHOA WHOA WHOA, STOP BEING SO COCKY AND MILITANT YOU ASSHOLE!"

No racist will ever, ever say "I hate celebrity X because of his/her color". Our culture is very PC and those words would have consequences. So there has to be an excuse (his attitude etc.)

GarlicSauce - Diplomatic answer. Well put (in terms of PR), and he's trying to put out a possible fire before it grows bigger. But racists will still foam at the mouth and insist they are not racists, and that they hate Jon Jones because of his "attitude" and other unconvincing excuses.

What if Chael Sonnen was black? The things he said were outrageous. Jon Jones was hated either way: when he was nice: "HE'S A PHONY! SHOW YOUR REAL SELF YOU FAKE!", then when he shows a more boastful, more aggressive side: "WHOA WHOA WHOA, STOP BEING SO COCKY AND MILITANT YOU ASSHOLE!"

No racist will ever, ever say "I hate celebrity X because of his/her color". Our culture is very PC and those words would have consequences. So there has to be an excuse (his attitude etc.)
So in other words..."But they REALLY DO dislike him because they are racist."

Come off it. Phone Post 3.0

How many dudes that have bragged about narcing on friends have been wildly popular in the public eye, and what was their race?

 

 

in for the photoshops of dana and joe rogan if they were black ^^

Top 5 on the twitter top follower list are all not american. Wasn't aware twitter was so popular internationally, and in Brazil in particular. Phone Post 3.0

Jon Jones is simply not that likeable .. Some people simply aren't .. And both his 'roles' rub people the wrong way. His captain America persona was not genuine enough and the stuff that he gets flagged for in the press .. the childish shit on social media .. It does not win a lot of people over. Doubt that being white would make-up for any of it Phone Post 3.0

http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3574985406/db987e1c510e16a3a8e129c9d5a41b24.png

It's so obvious that Joe and Dana wish they were black. Sometimes I wish they were too... Phone Post 3.0

LOL, Silva has 6x more Twitter followers than Jones, but Rogan thinks racism is part of the reason Jones isn't more popular.  Derp.

I kind of took that statement from Dana as stepping on Rogans dick and calling it a day, good job Dana. Phone Post 3.0

Wait so we're using twitter to determine if Racism exists? Haha BS. MMA is more popular in Brazil and Canada. MMA is predominantly white sport so to say Jon Jones isn't judged by his race is a bit naive. The UG which i love has had members post really Bigoted things about jones, so let's stop lying to ourselves. Phone Post 3.0

WHITE: "Race not an issue"



So much so that the headline was changed to:

UFC Prez: "Race not a factor" Phone Post 3.0

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LOL, Silva has 6x more Twitter followers than Jones, but Rogan thinks racism is part of the reason Jones isn't more popular.  Derp.


Race definitely has a huge impact on popularity and it's not always bad.

If Anderson Silva happened to be white and from Nebraska, his number of followers would be significantly less.

GarlicSauce - Diplomatic answer. Well put (in terms of PR), and he's trying to put out a possible fire before it grows bigger. But racists will still foam at the mouth and insist they are not racists, and that they hate Jon Jones because of his "attitude" and other unconvincing excuses.

What if Chael Sonnen was black? The things he said were outrageous. Jon Jones was hated either way: when he was nice: "HE'S A PHONY! SHOW YOUR REAL SELF YOU FAKE!", then when he shows a more boastful, more aggressive side: "WHOA WHOA WHOA, STOP BEING SO COCKY AND MILITANT YOU ASSHOLE!"

No racist will ever, ever say "I hate celebrity X because of his/her color". Our culture is very PC and those words would have consequences. So there has to be an excuse (his attitude etc.)


Oh shut the fuck up with your bullshit.



I was both a huge fan of Anderson Silva and Jon Jones at one time.  After Silva started acting an ass in the octagon starting with Maia, then Jones started with all his dirty fighting tactics and eye pokes I was no longer a fan.



Take your false racism claims and shove it up your ass.

GarlicSauce - Diplomatic answer. Well put (in terms of PR), and he's trying to put out a possible fire before it grows bigger. But racists will still foam at the mouth and insist they are not racists, and that they hate Jon Jones because of his "attitude" and other unconvincing excuses.

What if Chael Sonnen was black? The things he said were outrageous. Jon Jones was hated either way: when he was nice: "HE'S A PHONY! SHOW YOUR REAL SELF YOU FAKE!", then when he shows a more boastful, more aggressive side: "WHOA WHOA WHOA, STOP BEING SO COCKY AND MILITANT YOU ASSHOLE!"

No racist will ever, ever say "I hate celebrity X because of his/her color". Our culture is very PC and those words would have consequences. So there has to be an excuse (his attitude etc.)


Fraser? Is that you?



Because you can troll better than that

Jones is ending racism one eye poke at a time.

I No Kung Foo - Jones is ending racism one eye poke at a time.
LOL! Phone Post 3.0

I No Kung Foo - Jones is ending racism one eye poke at a time.

LOL!

VU, good sir...