Both long time Cesar Gracie black belts. Both have numerous highlight subs. Between the two, they have lost by submission once (Hermès Franca beat Nate by armbar). Always noted by fighters and analyst as super high level. Always considered to have the edge if it hits the ground.
Only accolades I could find were a pan-am gold and silver for nick and Nate respectively. Say we have Olivera vs Nate, or Gilbert vs Nick, how does that go if it hits the ground? MMA or BJJ
Good questions. Diaz bros BJJ for MMA is top notch. I think Burns would beat Nick. Charles be Nate would be interesting on both striking and grappling actually. Charles hits a lot of his subs opportunistically on transitions but you see how smooth his fundamentals are vs Tony too.
Nicks grappling defense is great too. Go rewatch Diaz vs Penn. BJ takes Nick down and gets his back right away, but Nick defends the position and gets BJ to take side control and then masterfully gets BJ into his guard then eventually gets back up. It was grappling porn
Those are interesting matchups tbh. If Anthony Pettis can submit Charles I don’t see why either Diaz couldn’t. They’re both better boxers obviously. They both submitted Gomi at LW
I’d hazard nicks black belt is just as high level as Charles but Charles gets the W based on being a more disciplined, committed, hard working athlete and person
That nick was a .500 fighter in the ufc? He was 7-7-1. Thats .500.
Or the drug addict part? Nick failed againsy gomi, silva, and marius right? How many failed drug tests and career disasters does it take for you to admit someone has a problem?