Looking forward to the Cotto Margarito fight big time, and I have been thinking about the loaded hand wraps issue.
The level of disgust people have for Margarito's cheating seems to be far in excess of those who use performance enhancing drugs, but are they really that different? Both make you a more dangerous fighter than you would be without using them,increasing the risk to your opponent's health.
Is it just because we all know that most, if not all top athletes use drugs to cheat and we have become desensitised to it? If anything I would guess using steroids is an even bigger advantage than using loaded hand wraps.
Why do Margarito's action seem so obscene to us?
They dont to me, im a huge marg fan and always have been. Dont get me wrong, its not cool if Marg did do what is claimed on purpose..
but you have a good point how it seems to be looked at as way more harsh than roids..
Both are bad, one is just far less happeneing
i still however am still a huge fan of marg, I honestly say i look forward to his fights more than some of my fav ufc and mma fighters fights.
for example, way more than gsp i like to watch margo
I beleive it is seen as worse because if you do all the roids in the world you still have to get in there and do it. margarito pretty much brought two weapons in with him.
Billy Collins Jr.
Dongbar13 - I beleive it is seen as worse because if you do all the roids in the world you still have to get in there and do it. margarito pretty much brought two weapons in with him.
if were getting specific, we could call roids as weapons for multiple areas.. Legs, hands, arms. etc. its like 1 big weapon really
Roided up Pacquiao nearly ended Margarito's career but doesn't get any backlash against him.
According to the UG veryone's on roids. So if you take roids you don'thave an advantage , you've just levelled the playing field.
Loading wraps or taking out padding, put's you in a smaller, more reviled catagory of cheating shitbag.
not even comparable...been plenty of athletes that's been caught doping and never did damage to their opponents like what happened to Billy Collins, Cotto etc...you can kill someone with plastered gloves..
Barry_BondsMVP - not even comparable...been plenty of athletes that's been caught doping and never did damage to their opponents like what happened to Billy Collins, Cotto etc...you can kill someone with plastered gloves..
The Ironing lol. I agree though. 2 things that arent even in the same ballpark for discussion. Roids are a weapon? lol
jct71 -Barry_BondsMVP - not even comparable...been plenty of athletes that's been caught doping and never did damage to their opponents like what happened to Billy Collins, Cotto etc...you can kill someone with plastered gloves..
The Ironing lol. I agree though. 2 things that arent even in the same ballpark for discussion. Roids are a weapon? lol
lol, come on now...even if you believe he did, it's baseball..
The difference steroids make is arguable - the difference having a loaded glove makes is instant. Fighters who have been hit with them attest to the raw damage.
DiazMadeMe BJTheWelshman - You don't take roids with the intention of hurting the other guy. It's just mainly to recover from injury and be the best you can be. Not that I agree with it. <br><br>I can kind of see where you're coming from but what marg did with the wraps was purely bad intentions. He wanted to bust up someone's face and hurt them. <br><br>Was it Mosley he was fighting? Can't remember. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
yes, he got caught before the Mosley fight
absolutely no difference. check the "Bible of the Balless", or the "Coward's Handbook"
Steriods, loaded wraps, bringing a gun into the ring and shooting your opponent in the head.
All considered cheating imo.
All should be dealt with equally.
Calhoon - Steriods, loaded wraps, bringing a gun into the ring and shooting your opponent in the head.
All considered cheating imo.
All should be dealt with equally.
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If you had to choose, would you rather meet a roided opponent or an opponent with loaded gloves? Should answer your question about which is worse. 
"ok stupid.
testosterone doesn't equal punching power. It allows you to strength train harder and therefore become more explosive in a shorter amount of time"
If you can train at a much higher intensity alot more often, that is a huge advantage. I would argue its easily more of an advantage than being able to hit harder. If steroids were not a massive advantage, people would not be taking them. You clean vs yourself on steroids would be a more one sided fight than you clean vs yourslef with loaded wraps imo. I think you are really downplaying the massive effect steroids have.
"not even comparable...been plenty of athletes that's been caught doping and never did damage to their opponents like what happened to Billy Collins, Cotto etc...you can kill someone with plastered gloves.. "
Although I believe Marg had loaded gloves against Cotto, it hasn't been proven. Plus, people have died in the ring and taken beatings like Cotto when there has been no suspicion of loaded gloves or steroids. Loaded gloves are not guaranteed victory or death to your opponent.
I am actually surprised some people are downplaying steroids so much. I think people got use to them because the athletes getting caught using them were from sports that the consequence of beating your opponent was just beating them in a race or a baseball game. When the cheating results in beating your opponent to a pulp and could result in death you realise how serious it is.
"You don't take roids with the intention of hurting the other guy. It's just mainly to recover from injury and be the best you can be. Not that I agree with it. "
Being the best you can be means more physical damage for the other guy in a combat sport. A fighter in their absolute peak condition is more dangerous than a fighter with medium condition and loaded gloves imo.