Do Fighters get a Concussion everytime they get KO

Do they get a concussion everytime they get ko'd or tko'd?

I was just K.O.'ed and the Docs said I had no Concussion. My jaw was broken.

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TKO'd not necessarially, but if you have a head injury with a loss of consciousness (like a true K.O.), then you have a concussion. A concussion is simply defined as a head injury with altered brain function, and a true ko meets that definition, thus the manditory suspension even after a one punch knock-out Phone Post

By definition, a knockout is a concussion.

If you're interested:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/5269/ask-the-doc-dr-benjamin-discusses-the-medical-mystery-of-concussions.mma

More than likely yes. Firstly medical practitioners can't properly map how the brain reacts, or what symptoms are caused by a concussion even when using a tool like an FNMRI. For a doctor to look at a cat scan or FNMRI and tell you, definitively, youve never had a concussion is ridiculous. Just because the signs aren't evident to them doesn't mean they aren't present. Concussion research has just recently taken off and there is a significant lag in what neuroscientists are learning in the labs and what M.D's know.

In short I've had concussion like symptoms probably around 10 times and suffered from PCS (which is terrible) twice without doctors being able to give me any concrete evidence of a concussion. The brains shuts off when it suffers trauma which often is a result to some sort of bruising. In the end we don't know what we don't know- and there isn't sufficient evidence to support any definitive answer to that question. [source: my roommate who has a PhD Neuroscience and is primarily studying concussions] Phone Post

so everytime a fan is rooting for a ko, they're rooting for a fighter to get a concussion. Maybe decisions are better.

Good example of concussion: Lindland/Belfort Phone Post

 KO? yes

MartialArtsMixed - so everytime a fan is rooting for a ko, they're rooting for a fighter to get a concussion. Maybe decisions are better.




Hi Greg!

Purgey - Good example of concussion: Lindland/Belfort




It can also be used as an example of what it looks like when a baby calf is born.

 If you become unconscious from being struck in the head you have suffered a concussion, yes.

 Mega FRAT warning, but an excellent article on concussions in combat sports by Dr. Margaret Goodman:


Often times I am asked by fighters and the like, "What is a concussion?" The most crucial thing for a fighter to do in the ring is not get hit. Needless to say, that is often not the case. Many boxers are taught to stand in the ring and take punishment to their bodies and head. How harmful is this? Everyone seems to respect the fighter that can take a punch. Somehow that becomes synonymous with the fighter who has a heart. Unfortunately, the fighter with courage is often the same one with a concussion. 

It makes perfect sense that head blows are not good for you. The brain, which has the consistency of a hard custard, sits encased in fluid within the skull. The fluid acts like a shock absorber and prevents injury to the brain when the head is struck. Multiple blows, or even a single blow, can result in a concussion. 

Concussion refers to a temporary disruption in the brain's function.... "a short circuiting." This occurs on a cellular level affecting the brain's circulation and biochemistry. The fighter, whose bout is stopped from a TKO or KO, will often have a concussion. However, the winner who has taken their fair share of headshots, can also have one. The signs and symptoms can be subtle. They can take some time to appear, and are often overlooked by even the most experienced observers. 

A concussion can happen after one round or twelve. Its effects can last days or months depending on its severity. Medically, the severity is judged by whether or not loss of consciousness occurred and/or the presence of amnesia of the events surrounding a fight. 

So, how can a ring doctor identify if a fighter has suffered a concussion during the fight? This is tough because it might require a lot of questions, and there certainly isn't time for that. The minute between rounds is crucial to the boxer's success. It is important for the doctor to not interfere with those precious moments. Furthermore, a fighter concentrating on the task at hand might have a bit of trouble answering detailed questions. 

Conversely, a fighter that can't find their corner after the bell rings; a fighter that is less alert and staring into space between rounds; or a fighter that is taking a great many punches as the fight continues could each have a concussion. If this is the case, the fight must stop so the boxer can be evaluated medically. 

After the fight, it is important for the fighter's corner and family to know what symptoms to look for that might signify a concussion. These can include: headache, dizziness, ringing in the ears, blurred vision, fatigue/lethargy, weakness, memory loss, trouble with balance/coordination, sleeplessness OR sleepiness, personality changes, and apathy. So, I always recommend that someone be with a fighter for at least 24-48 hours after a tough fight. In Nevada the participants are given a sheet in either Spanish or English listing the symptoms that could signify a head injury and where to seek medical attention. 

How can a doctor prove that you have had a concussion? It isn't always simple. The real diagnosis of a concussion is made by a neurological examination. This will include: evaluating the individual's memory, concentration, speech, language capabilities, balance, coordination, and strength. If a fighter has a concussion, they will almost always have a normal MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) Scan or a normal CAT (Computerized Axial Tomography) Scan. The MRI is a non-radiographic procedure that shows the brain in three dimensions. The CAT scan is a radiographic test showing the brain in two dimensions. On an acute basis, it is easier to see a blood clot on a CAT Scan. 

So why do an MRI or CAT Scan if they are usually normal? Well, if a fighter has a bad KO, doesn't appear normal after a fight, or has symptoms including headache, the doctor has to send them to the hospital immediately. It is sometimes difficult to differentiate between the fighter with a subdural hematoma (blood clot) or a simple concussion unless you get some picture of the brain. Obviously, failing to recognize the difference could result in death! 

How about the gym? So, you are wearing headgear, then you must be safe. NOT TRUE!! Headgear will protect you from cuts and facial swelling, but it can't protect you from a head injury. A concussion can happen in the gym as easily as during a fight; maybe more so. A fighter spends so many more hours sparring than they could ever spend in actual bouts. These practice rounds can produce a concussion. I hear about fighters that have lost their focus training or sparred way too many rounds. These are often the losers on fight night. No one would argue the importance of extensive training and conditioning. However, punishment will only take away from your ability to succeed. 

What is the answer to fix a concussion? REST! The most important thing a fighter can do is take some time and not spar. It is fascinating that many fail to recognize the brain is just like any other part of the body. It takes time to heal.

AdamInOntario - Not necessarily, a concussion is a bruise on your brain, getting punched out can cause your brain to rattle and bruise, but I've knocked myself out doing dumb shit quite often and I've been checked numerous times and never had a concussion. Phone Post
lol how often can you knock yourself out? Phone Post

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Wait you are commuting 3-4 hours each day ? How many miles away is your job ? Phone Post 3.0

how come hockey players get a concussion over any hit to the head its a huge deal but when it happens to mma fighters its not really a big thing and no story is made out of it

eg- crosby, savard (hasnt played ever since...oveer a year ago)

mr1709 - how come hockey players get a concussion over any hit to the head its a huge deal but when it happens to mma fighters its not really a big thing and no story is made out of it

eg- crosby, savard (hasnt played ever since...oveer a year ago)


 I'd say that's because it's a bigger media sport and hockey players are scheduled to play many times, so they're absence is missed. Where fighters might fight again in 4-5 months and if theyre concussed they might take the same year long break that a hockey player takes yet not be noticed.

I fear for Wanderlei Silva and the amount of times he's been ko'd over the last few years.

32Hunter -
mr1709 - how come hockey players get a concussion over any hit to the head its a huge deal but when it happens to mma fighters its not really a big thing and no story is made out of it

eg- crosby, savard (hasnt played ever since...oveer a year ago)


 I'd say that's because it's a bigger media sport and hockey players are scheduled to play many times, so they're absence is missed. Where fighters might fight again in 4-5 months and if theyre concussed they might take the same year long break that a hockey player takes yet not be noticed.

Or, because a hickey player plays up to 4 games a week and not 1 every 3 months.

If you look at the average length of a concussion that involves a player being "out of it" there normally gone for like 45 days. True it's normal to see them back with in a week or two, but those are the ones tfat go undetected during a game, and the player feels symptoms afterwards. Phone Post