Do quotas exist?

Having this argument with a friend.

I asked a cop in high school this. Well, I specifically asked if they needed to populate a certain # of tickets. He said no. NH in the late 90s. If that helps

Let's say officer A. Writes little to no tickets and officer B. Leads the department in tickets given. Who's more likely to get a raise?

Also to clarify the question I wanted to ask is do quotas exist for cops?

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Cant make em speed.......

KASINO - Also to clarify the question I wanted to ask is do quotas exist for cops?


Of course they do.  Generally, it's not a written policy but it is definitely an unwritten one.  

Vegito Blue -

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Sounds like a quota to me.

KASINO -
Vegito Blue -

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Sounds like a quota to me.

Well i can lead a horse to a bucket of water but can't make it drink i guess lol

 

Vegito Blue -
KASINO -
Vegito Blue -

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Sounds like a quota to me.

Well i can lead a horse to a bucket of water but can't make it drink i guess lol

 

I understand what you're saying. It just is really disheartening hearing that some cops are repremanded or seen as "slacking" for not writing useless tickets.

KASINO -
Vegito Blue -
KASINO -
Vegito Blue -

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Sounds like a quota to me.

Well i can lead a horse to a bucket of water but can't make it drink i guess lol

 

I understand what you're saying. It just is really disheartening hearing that some cops are repremanded or seen as "slacking" for not writing useless tickets.

I agree.  If i were a cop i'd like to believe i'd be light on ticket writing. Specially for young people new drivers.  They don't deserve tickets when they're brand new to driving and still on their parents car insurance.  Unless they do something extremely fucked up like 130mph on a 70 or something like that lol

But yeah i don't like that either, officers scrutinized for the number of tickets they write, or the lack there of

Some places yes, they are explicit, others the number of citations are tracked on a board, and other officers will put pressure on you to preform. Other departments, no quotas.

It just depends.

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There is an average. There is always one asshole that writes more tickets than anyone and one guy that does fuck all. Most try to stay in the middle somewhere. You have different squads working and each one is trying to get better numbers than the other.

angryinch -
KASINO - Also to clarify the question I wanted to ask is do quotas exist for cops?


Of course they do.  Generally, it's not a written policy but it is definitely an unwritten one.  

This is true at a few agencies.

Others push you to have a certain number of "contacts." One type of contact is a ticket.

Except for small town, profit driven reasons, most agencies would probably give you a pass on not writing traffic if you were regularly solving property crime, assaults or finding drugs.

 

#SPEEDUPKASINO

KASINO -
Vegito Blue -
KASINO -
Vegito Blue -

My uncle is a police officer and I'm in a Law Enforcement/homeland security programs right now. This is what it is - 

No, there's no official police quota. There just isn't. BUT if there's 3 officers who give 100 tickets a month, and another officer only writes 50 a month, the police chief or whomever will ask them why aren't they writing as many tickets. Then that officer will start writing more at the end of the month, not because he HAS to, but because he doesn't want to seem like he's slacking off 

Sounds like a quota to me.

Well i can lead a horse to a bucket of water but can't make it drink i guess lol

 

I understand what you're saying. It just is really disheartening hearing that some cops are repremanded or seen as "slacking" for not writing useless tickets.

Yeah tickets aren't really useless. Enforcing traffic law is actually the most significant thing a cop can do. Traffic accidents due to negligence cause more deaths than murders. It has more of an impact on society. I know its not as glamorous but it's critical. 

Depends on department. Highway janitors (state patrol) tend to more than other types of LE.

15 years ago, in Calgary, definitely.

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Union: Police Officers Forced to Meet Ticket Quotas

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/police-officers-forced-to-meet-ticket-quotas-union-1.345250

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-town-infamous-for-speed-traps-disbanding-police-force/