Does anyone honestly think Olivera has anything for Islam's grappling?

His only chance would be to clip Islam with some kind of hail mary shot.

You don’t learn Islam level grappling in a few years.

This is the guy who got subbed by Pettis and GNP’ed to bolivia by Paul fucking Felder

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Idk. Something about Charles having a shit ton of submission wins and finishes over a pretty significant span of time leads me to believe it will at least be interesting.

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Islam has already been knocked out by a less talented Brazilian striker. Ya know as long as we are digging into the past.

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Olives can do work from his back.

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As long as we’re digging in the past Olivera has already lost 8 fucking times lol

It’s an interesting fight. Oliviera–the submission record holder–obviously has a great shot at submitting an inferior pure grappler such as Islam. Islam’s best shot is pounding Oliviera out while he’s hunting for the sub. No way Oliviera turns this into a striking match… Islam would take him down right away and give the appearance of dictating the fight. This fight goes to the ground early. Oliviera by sub early on, or Islam by gnp if the fight drags on. No way the fight goes all five rounds.

“The submission record holder”?

Who the fuck has Olivera submitted that I should be impressed with?

Poirier and Kevin Lee for starters

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So you don’t know shit about grappling then?

Because Poirier and Lee are levels below Islam.

That was my point. Their losses mean far less than what they are today.

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OP joined 10 days ago and is a troll.

But I’ll respond to a troll thread like a troll.

Islam gets slept on the feet by Charles.

Islam gets subbed on the ground

Islam gets subbed in the clinch like 5 other people have in the UFC.

Islam is a journeyman with 1 top 10 win.

Oliveira will fight Beneil before he fights Islam

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Thanks for the prediction. I’ll bump this thread to show you how much of an know nothing idiot you are.

Thank you 10 day old poster.

This thread will never be bumped

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You just bumped it.

This thread won’t be bumped by you at the end of Q4

It will be bumped by me after they fight and Islam is subbed, if they ever do. Which I doubt, because Beneil will probably KO Islam when their grappling turns out to be a stalemate.

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That’s a great question. I couldn’t think of any names off the top of my head, I just knew that he had a lot of subs. Also, that’s an interesting way of wording it… “impressed with”. Many of these subs won OTN bonuses which are discretionary in nature and generally only get awarded for impressing the boss. Since Islam is at the beginning of his career, he may want to note that way of looking at it.

I marked the guys who are grappling specialists with an X. This detail alone makes me think Islam is in for a rough ride.

Poirier, RNC, POTN
x Kevin Lee, guillotine, POTN
Teymur, anaconda, POTN
x Jim MIller, RNC, POTN
Christos Giagos, RNC, POTN
x Clay Guida, guillotine, POTN
x Will Brooks, RNC, POTN
Myles Jury, guillotine, NO BONUS
x Nik Lentz, guillotine, POTN
x Hatsu Hioki, anaconda, POTN
Andy Ogle, triangle, POTN
x Brookins, guillotine, NO BONUS
Eric Wisely, calf slicer, SOTN
x Efrain Escudero, RNC, SOTN
x Darren Elkins, armbar, SOTN

Other records…
Most finishes in UFC history (18)
Most subs (15)
Most OTN bonuses (18)
Fight of the night (3)
Sub of the year (2014 vs Hioki)

Fifth highest all time finish ratio in the UFC (18 of his 20 UFC wins are by stoppage).

What impresses you brah?

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I haven’t seen a record so padded since Travis Fulton

Well, I can help you with that too.

Dan Hooker
Thiago Moises
Drew Dober
Davi Ramos
Arman Tsarukyan
Kajan Johnson
Gleison Tibau
Nik Lentz
Chris Wade
Adriano Martins
Leo Kuntz

Although, I’m glad to see your boy has finally started to fight ranked opponents! He should be due for a title shot any day now. I even noticed he has a couple subs in there too, Dan Hooker, good good, submitted the non-grappling specialist, good good, you’ve got to have one or two of those too!

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Why hasn’t your boy submitted any grappling specialists? I don’t understand. He’s an amazing grappler, he’s going to out grapple Charles Oliviera. He must be saving the big one…

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I’d like to see Islam fight Jim Miller. That’d tell us a lot about his ability to get the sub, and it’d also tell us whether or not it’s easy to sub Islam. I think Islam would win that by gnp. Still a great fight though… it’d tell us whether Jim Miller still has “it”.

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