Dragon vs Shogun confirmed for UFC 104 10/24

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It’s time for some Brazilian-on-Brazilian crime.

MMAmania.com has learned that bout agreements have been signed for the light heavyweight title fight between newly-minted champion Lyoto Machida (15-0) and 2005 Pride FC Middleweight Grand Prix winner Mauricio Rua (18-3) for UFC 104 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California, on October 24.


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dumb matchup..SHogun beats WASHED up Liddell and he gets a title shot??SHogun should have to beat rampage in order to fight machida..

for my birf day?? Thanks ufc!!

Go Both Guys!

Did the UFC just wanna give Machida a gift title defense? It seems that way. I dont get this at all. Shogun is one of the last people I wanted to see Machida get his first title defense shot against. He beats two dudes well past their primes and gets a shot at the title?

When Machida makes easy work of Shogun, lets not all bash Shogun for it, lets bash Joe Silva like we should have been after the Silva/ Leites fight.

CALPIS!!!!

tooooo soon.......

regardless of if he deserves a shot or not....this is a good fight,cant wait to see it

didn't shogun mention they were friends?

good fight though.

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McSlugga - Did the UFC just wanna give Machida a gift title defense? It seems that way. I dont get this at all. Shogun is one of the last people I wanted to see Machida get his first title defense shot against. He beats two dudes well past their primes and gets a shot at the title?

When Machida makes easy work of Shogun, lets not all bash Shogun for it, lets bash Joe Silva like we should have been after the Silva/ Leites fight.



Who would be a better candidate, IYO?

Rampage and Rashad are tied up. T.Silva just got beat by Lyoto. Who else has done more than Shogun at this point?

Bry Bry - dumb matchup..SHogun beats WASHED up Liddell and he gets a title shot??SHogun should have to beat rampage in order to fight machida..

Didn't that ?, oh, I must of just dreamt that already happened.

Fugazi - 
McSlugga - Did the UFC just wanna give Machida a gift title defense? It seems that way. I dont get this at all. Shogun is one of the last people I wanted to see Machida get his first title defense shot against. He beats two dudes well past their primes and gets a shot at the title?

When Machida makes easy work of Shogun, lets not all bash Shogun for it, lets bash Joe Silva like we should have been after the Silva/ Leites fight.



Who would be a better candidate, IYO?

Rampage and Rashad are tied up. T.Silva just got beat by Lyoto. Who else has done more than Shogun at this point?



That sounds an awful lot like the argument for why Leites deserved a title shot at Silva..

Bry Bry - dumb matchup..SHogun beats WASHED up Liddell and he gets a title shot??SHogun should have to beat rampage in order to fight machida..
Yeah well Page is more concerned about looking silly against Machida and losing out on a pay day against Rashad so he decided to skip having his ass kicked by Lyoto so Shogun had to step up (since there are no other contenders).

Didn't Leites get the shot over Okami(who arguably deserved it more)?

Yeah, but whats your point, I dont work for the UFCs marketing department. I cant help the fact that they dont like him because he has no mass appeal.

Bry Bry - dumb matchup..SHogun beats WASHED up Liddell and he gets a title shot??SHogun should have to beat rampage in order to fight machida..


I don't know about that; sure many including myself wanted Rampage next, he is afterall the number one contender but you can blame ZUFFA for allowing Rampage to pick Rashad and TUF over fighting for the Championship.

Finally what happens if the Shogun who beat Chuck is better his next time out vs Machida? It makes sense that he would be; people don't realize how two devastating knee injuries and time out of the Cage will mess with fighters conditioning and timing not to mention stagnating their evolution in MMA. Shogun seems to be back on track and people with short memories forget Shogun beat Rampage, Beat Lil Nog, beat Arona and now Chuck.

Seems like a good fight to me and after Rampage who else? Jardine, Cane, Vera? I wouldn't put any of them ahead of Shogun and none are in any of the Rankings. Jon Jones is another possibility but probably a year away from earning a Shot.

i dont know why they are feeding shogun to the wolves already. he could have had a few big fights and built himself up a little more.

frontrowbrian - 
Fugazi - Didn't Leites get the shot over Okami(who arguably deserved it more)?
Leites getting a title shot was the UFC WTF moment of 2009. I don't think anyone has figured out why he got the shot. No one knew who he was, he was coming off a fight with Drew McFedries, totally nonsensical and UFC got everything they deserved putting him in there with Anderson.
 



Right. Which is why I don't see the comparison between Shogun and Leites being valid.

Kansas Comet - 
Bry Bry - dumb matchup..SHogun beats WASHED up Liddell and he gets a title shot??SHogun should have to beat rampage in order to fight machida..


I don't know about that; sure many including myself wanted Rampage next, he is afterall the number one contender but you can blame ZUFFA for allowing Rampage to pick Rashad and TUF over fighting for the Championship.

Finally what happens if the Shogun who beat Chuck is better his next time out vs Machida? It makes sense that he would be; people don't realize how two devastating knee injuries and time out of the Cage will mess with fighters conditioning and timing not to mention stagnating their evolution in MMA. Shogun seems to be back on track and people with short memories forget Shogun beat Rampage, Beat Lil Nog, beat Arona and now Chuck.

Seems like a good fight to me and after Rampage who else? Jardine, Cane, Vera? I wouldn't put any of them ahead of Shogun and none are in any of the Rankings. Jon Jones is another possibility but probably a year away from earning a Shot.



I think youre conveniantly leaving out two facts here though.

#1. Shogun is widely accepted to have had some Vitamin S help throughout much of his career in Pride. Youre saying hes been under rated but you could also spin it as him being over rated.

#2. I know its not popular but Forrest beat Shogun in pretty decisive fashion as well as getting a W against Page, I understand hes tied up right now too but Im just sayin..