Easiest Way to Build the Wall & Solve Immigration

The Secure Fence Act of 2006 already passed. All Trump would have to do is get it funded.

 

Build most of it as a double or triple fence with cameras, flood lights, motion sensors, heat sensors, drones, electric shocks, loudspeakers, razor wire, etc. Maybe concrete walls in some areas. Hire more Border Patrol agents and let them do their job. Use the National Guard to assist Border Patrol if necessary.

 

The parts of the double fence that were built have been very effective. After the San Diego fence was built "apprehensions went down 95 percent". There are similiar numbers in other areas where this type of fence was built.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5323928

 

Along with the fence/wall, enforce existing immigration laws. Illegal immigration is already down 67% under Trump:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/illegal-immigration-down-67-percent-under-trump/

 

 

Border fences have been very effective in Israel and Hungary. If it will stop a terrorist willing to die then it will stop an immigrant.

 

Israel:

"Since construction of the fence began, the number of attacks has declined by more than 90%."

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-israel-s-security-fence

 

Hungary:

"Attempted border entries have fallen tremendously since the barrier was constructed. During the month of September 2015 there was a total number of 138,396 migrant entries, and by the first two weeks of November the average daily number of intercepted migrants decreased to only 15, which is a daily reduction of more than 4,500."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_border_barrier

Just penalize the illegal employers if you want to solve the problem. Otherwise you're not serious about the issue. No one is coming if no one is hiring.

^^winner

attjack - Just penalize the illegal employers if you want to solve the problem. Otherwise you're not serious about the issue. No one is coming if no one is hiring.

I agree with that. It falls under my point of enforcing the existing laws. It's already illegal to hire an illegal immigrant but it's not enforced.

Trump just tucked on funding the wall tonight. It's just not happening. Too dumb of an idea. Republicans leaders in border States don't even want it. LOL

attjack - Just penalize the illegal employers if you want to solve the problem. Otherwise you're not serious about the issue. No one is coming if no one is hiring.

White people. CEOs and HR directors, white collar folk. Jail for first offense hiring violations. 

Rich whiteys start doing time, poblem solved real fast. 

attjack - Trump just tucked on funding the wall tonight. It's just not happening. Too dumb of an idea. Republicans leaders in border States don't even want it. LOL

He's trying to get too much done too quickly.

He made such a big deal out of it that it will hurt him if the wall doesn't get built. He will also lose some of his base.

All he needs to do is pass an amendment to the spending bill of the 2006 Fence Act.

Dissident -
attjack - Trump just tucked on funding the wall tonight. It's just not happening. Too dumb of an idea. Republicans leaders in border States don't even want it. LOL

He's trying to get too much done too quickly.

He made such a big deal out of it that it will hurt him if the wall doesn't get built. He will also lose some of his base.

All he needs to do is pass an amendment to the spending bill of the 2006 Fence Act.

He won't lose a single vote if the wall doesn't get built. He will blame Democrats and his supporters will concur.

^^He has a republican controlled congress. He tried blaming Dems on the failed AHCA and it didn't fly. People saw straight though it. 

A lot of you like the wall-less wall idea but it doesnt work. We already did that with drones and it wasnt effective.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2015/OIG_15-17_Dec14.pdf

just let our military shoot anyone trespassing, theyll stop coming

ranier wolfcastle - 


just let our military shoot anyone trespassing, theyll stop coming


Well that's an interesting perspective on criminal punishment proportionality.

Trump’s Border Wall Request Equals 0.035% of Federal Spending

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/trumps-border-wall-request-equals-0035-federal-spending

 

Budget cuts will pay for it. If Trump can get Mexico to pay for it, even better.

attjack - Just penalize the illegal employers if you want to solve the problem. Otherwise you're not serious about the issue. No one is coming if no one is hiring.

While  i agree that this should be done, and will be a large deterrent, i don't believe that it will solve the problem completely.

Not while cities, states, and the Feds hand out money (food, subsidies, etc), housing, health care, education, and other social assitance programs. 

Dissident - 

Trump’s Border Wall Request Equals 0.035% of Federal Spending

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/trumps-border-wall-request-equals-0035-federal-spending

 

Budget cuts will pay for it. If Trump can get Mexico to pay for it, even better.


You say that as if Trump won't be running deficits and adding to the national debt. He will.

Strandman -
Dissident -
attjack - Trump just tucked on funding the wall tonight. It's just not happening. Too dumb of an idea. Republicans leaders in border States don't even want it. LOL

He's trying to get too much done too quickly.

He made such a big deal out of it that it will hurt him if the wall doesn't get built. He will also lose some of his base.

All he needs to do is pass an amendment to the spending bill of the 2006 Fence Act.

He won't lose a single vote if the wall doesn't get built. He will blame Democrats and his supporters will concur.

I disagree, i won't vote for him if he doesn't secure our borders. I don't care if it's a wall, fense or moat as long as it's effective. This was his main point in his campaign, he has to deliver.

attjack - Just penalize the illegal employers if you want to solve the problem. Otherwise you're not serious about the issue. No one is coming if no one is hiring.
^

Strandman -
Dissident -
attjack - Trump just tucked on funding the wall tonight. It's just not happening. Too dumb of an idea. Republicans leaders in border States don't even want it. LOL

He's trying to get too much done too quickly.

He made such a big deal out of it that it will hurt him if the wall doesn't get built. He will also lose some of his base.

All he needs to do is pass an amendment to the spending bill of the 2006 Fence Act.

He won't lose a single vote if the wall doesn't get built. He will blame Democrats and his supporters will concur.
No wall...no vote

Fuck that get it done

 

Fire da damn lasers