Far Left Idiology

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TexDeuce - 
kingofpancakes80 - Did he predict orcus?

Orcus was actually spoken about in the Bible. Exodus wrote of a plague that descended upon the earth. 


Whoa

anthonyMI - 
Res ipsa loquitar -

Weren't the extreme left bombing campuses and other things the deemed bad in the early 60s? 

 

Back when he was a student?

Back when he was a student he was psychologically tortured in a study that was very likely attached to MKUltra


He was freakishly smart, and at the cultural ground zero for the ideas that ran the Western world for the next half century. He basically predicted where intellectual, cultural, and technological trends would take society decades before other people started to notice. In spite of some of his predictions being frighteningly correct over the span of his lifetime, I don't think you can extend them over multiple human lifetimes. At least I hope not.

player101 -

Some of his stuff is interesting and he was definitely dialed in with the direction the Left heading before it was commonly understood. The technological society ideas though, gets a little crazy.

 

"Various thinkers have pointed out that leftism is a kind of religion. Leftism is not a religion in the strict sense because leftist doctrine does not postulate the existence of any supernatural being. But, for the leftist, leftism plays a psychological role much like that which religion plays for some people. The leftist NEEDS to believe in leftism; it plays a vital role in his psychological economy. His beliefs are not easily modified by logic or facts. He has a deep conviction that leftism is morally Right with a capital R, and that he has not only a right but a duty to impose leftist morality on everyone. (However, many of the people we are referring to as “leftists” do not think of themselves as leftists and would not describe their system of beliefs as leftism. We use the term “leftism” because we don’t know of any better words to designate the spectrum of related creeds that includes the feminist, gay rights, political correctness, etc., movements, and because these movements have a strong affinity with the old left. See paragraphs 227-230.)"

 

"Leftism is a totalitarian force. Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftist beliefs represents Sin. More importantly, leftism is a totalitarian force because of the leftists’ drive for power. The leftist seeks to satisfy his need for power through identification with a social movement and he tries to go through the power process by helping to pursue and attain the goals of the movement (see paragraph 83). But no matter how far the movement has gone in attaining its goals the leftist is never satisfied, because his activism is a surrogate activity(see paragraph 41). That is, the leftist’s real motive is not to attain the ostensible goals of leftism; in reality he is motivated by the sense of power he gets from struggling for and then reaching a social goal. [35] Consequently the leftist is never satisfied with the goals he has already attained; his need for the power process leads him always to pursue some new goal. The leftist wants equal opportunities for minorities. When that is attained he insists on statistical equality of achievement by minorities. And as long as anyone harbors in some corner of his mind a negative attitude toward some minority, the leftist has to re-educated him. And ethnic minorities are not enough; no one can be allowed to have a negative attitude toward homosexuals, disabled people, fat people, old people, ugly people, and on and on and on. It’s not enough that the public should be informed about the hazards of smoking; a warning has to be stamped on every package of cigarettes. Then cigarette advertising has to be restricted if not banned. The activists will never be satisfied until tobacco is outlawed, and after that it will be alcohol, then junk food, etc. Activists have fought gross child abuse, which is reasonable. But now they want to stop all spanking. When they have done that they will want to ban something else they consider unwholesome, then another thing and then another. They will never be satisfied until they have complete control over all child rearing practices. And then they will move on to another cause."

 

Ted Kazinsky

Anyone interested in the Kaczinski part of this thread needs to watch Manhunt: Unibomber

it was fascinating

Al Cappucino -
evh -

how’s the spelling in that manofesto

How is your ability to comment on the topic working out these days assface?

the topic of the car left or the manofesto methed?

evh -
Al Cappucino -
evh -

how’s the spelling in that manofesto

How is your ability to comment on the topic working out these days assface?

the topic of the car left or the manofesto methed?

"I have nothing to add, so i'll just make fun of a couple of spelling mistakes"

 

Any good books about this? I’ve never read about him. 

King Trav - 

Any good books about this? I’ve never read about him. 


Wikipedia article, and manifesto. A bunch of the early speculative stuff was wrong. FBI profiled him as having little formal schooling (he was a Harvard grad, and had a PhD). Also the police sketch of him didn't bear a resemblance to his appearance.

If you want manuals on how to make the bombs, nobody really wants to publish that stuff. The things worked, and they were hard to trace because so many of the parts were painstaking hand manufactured out junk instead of being bought in stores. Once Kaczynski needed a screw for one of his devices, and instead of buying one, he fabricated it himself from a solid block of metal.

King Trav -

Any good books about this? I’ve never read about him. 

The Netflix series is really all you need 

 

whats interating is that the investigator assigned to catch him ended up quitting over the fact that he fell in line with Ted’s idiology. 

he's absolutely right about the left.

that being said, the unibomber disputes some of the events in the series and the investigator didn't really fall in line with his ideology in real life. he seemed a little pompous in real life.

Bilge Water -

Jesus, the unibomber was on to something. Nuts how accurate that was.

Yeah I kind of hate agreeing with the damn unabomber