Financially, Fertitta compares "UFC" to "Man U"

Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 36m

Fertitta said the UFC gets approached "all the time" by the biggest investment banks to go public.

When the host asks if they are as big as Man U (worth approx. 3 billion), Fertitta said the banks say "we are definitely in that zip code."

Fertitta says they are moving more towards being simply a "fight promoter" to a "global media company."

I was just looking at the World MMA potential and its out there and growing fast with some huge countries and MMA fan bases still yet to get exposed to even more.

RUSSIA
CHINA
KOREA
JAPAN
GERMANY/EUROPE

So the only real player in mma is worth the same as one epl team.


Still one hell of an improvement.in before people compare pay of 2 wildly different sports. Phone Post

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One on the left is the new Man U manager, who took over from Alex 'Fergie' Ferguson recently after fergie was manager for 20 yearsish.

There's long been a theory that Alex Ferguson was the beneficiary of having extra time given in injury time (time at the end of the game - due to injuries) than any other team when ManU were losing. Called 'Fergie Time'. You'd often see Fergie point at his watch during injury time - basically saying there's still more time to go.

[1] Did you know the worst bench warmer on the worst Women’s NBA team makes double what the average entry-level UFC fighter does?

[2] How about this, there was a UFC event in 2013 in which, apparently, the highest guaranteed pay on the card was $30k/$30k.

[3] Did you know, a fighter received only $12,000 in disclosed pay while fighting for a title and main-eventing a Pay-Per-View, this year?

[4] The median average wage for a top 15 fighter in the UFC is just $30,500 per year.

[5] Floyd Mayweather, in the 12 months between summer 2011 and summer 2012, made approximately four times more in guaranteed salary than the entire UFC roster combined. He fought twice.

 

http://www.mmasentinel.com/2013/07/ufc-fighter-pay-facts-ronda-rousey-dana-white/

[1] Minimum pay in WNBA is $37,950 for the year. The average new UFC fighter will fight twice per year, and make $12k-$20k in disclosed salary total. Average fighter going 1-1 will make $18k-$20k.
[2] According to payout information on MMA Manifesto
[3] Liz Carmouche vs Ronda Rousey, UFC 157
[4] The forest and the Trees, Bloody Elbow
[5] Disclosed UFC fighter Salary for 2011 was $23.6m. Mayweather’s guaranteed income from his 2 fights in 2011-2012 was $85m.

 

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Man U with like 400 players on the team

Your entire sport is worth the same as ONE team in another sport.

Congrats! WOW!

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Still missing some context. What kind of TV broadcast deal does the WNBA have? What about a players association/union? The attendance of games? Are team owners expecting/taking losses?

 

Not saying the UFC situation is fair, but no reason to compare apples to aeroplanes.

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[1] Did you know the worst bench warmer on the worst Women’s NBA team makes double what the average entry-level UFC fighter does?



[2] How about this, there was a UFC event in 2013 in which, apparently, the highest guaranteed pay on the card was $30k/$30k.



[3] Did you know, a fighter received only $12,000 in disclosed pay while fighting for a title and main-eventing a Pay-Per-View, this year?



[4] The median average wage for a top 15 fighter in the UFC is just $30,500 per year.



[5] Floyd Mayweather, in the 12 months between summer 2011 and summer 2012, made approximately four times more in guaranteed salary than the entire UFC roster combined. He fought twice.



 



http://www.mmasentinel.com/2013/07/ufc-fighter-pay-facts-ronda-rousey-dana-white/



[1] Minimum pay in WNBA is $37,950 for the year. The average new UFC fighter will fight twice per year, and make $12k-$20k in disclosed salary total. Average fighter going 1-1 will make $18k-$20k.

[2] According to payout information on MMA Manifesto

[3] Liz Carmouche vs Ronda Rousey, UFC 157

[4] The forest and the Trees, Bloody Elbow

[5] Disclosed UFC fighter Salary for 2011 was $23.6m. Mayweather’s guaranteed income from his 2 fights in 2011-2012 was $85m.



 

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crazydave - 


[1] Did you know the worst bench warmer on the worst Women’s NBA team makes double what the average entry-level UFC fighter does?



[2] How about this, there was a UFC event in 2013 in which, apparently, the highest guaranteed pay on the card was $30k/$30k.



[3] Did you know, a fighter received only $12,000 in disclosed pay while fighting for a title and main-eventing a Pay-Per-View, this year?



[4] The median average wage for a top 15 fighter in the UFC is just $30,500 per year.



[5] Floyd Mayweather, in the 12 months between summer 2011 and summer 2012, made approximately four times more in guaranteed salary than the entire UFC roster combined. He fought twice.



 



http://www.mmasentinel.com/2013/07/ufc-fighter-pay-facts-ronda-rousey-dana-white/



[1] Minimum pay in WNBA is $37,950 for the year. The average new UFC fighter will fight twice per year, and make $12k-$20k in disclosed salary total. Average fighter going 1-1 will make $18k-$20k.

[2] According to payout information on MMA Manifesto

[3] Liz Carmouche vs Ronda Rousey, UFC 157

[4] The forest and the Trees, Bloody Elbow

[5] Disclosed UFC fighter Salary for 2011 was $23.6m. Mayweather’s guaranteed income from his 2 fights in 2011-2012 was $85m.



 



A few things:



-MMA Manifesto fucking guesses at UFC pay for events where pay isn't disclosed (they say as much), even for newly signed fighters, and they don't seem understand that in every UFC contract the base pay goes up by at least $1k after win, and also that the new unofficial floor is actually $8k + 8k and not $6k + $6k. As such an entry-level fighter who goes 1-1 their first year in the UFC (and sadly the average number of fights per fighter per year is closer to 2 than 3) will make $24k-$26k. That being said, when a UFC fighter doesn't get all their fights on a contract within a certain amount of time the UFC will simply pay out the base pay on the fights not granted.



-It's an open secret that the UFC's discretionary bonuses even besides the "of the Night" bonuses raise both the mean and median salary considerably, even if we don't have any precise figures. Undisclosed bonuses of $10k a fight are very common and bonuses as high as $45k are not terribly rare.



-A "median average" is redundant at best and contradictory at worst. An "average" can refer to either the mean or median of something, but usually refers to the mean.



All that being said, you won't find any argument from me that a large portion of the UFC's roster is underpaid. Unlike players in major team sports, they have to pay for their own training, which they don't get reimbursed for. If they want to bring a second person from their corner and they aren't sharing corners with someone else, they have to pay for that person to fly out as well, as well as their hotel room and any other traveling expenses. And then there's the sponsor tax which by accounts is rather draconian.



The undisclosed locker room bonuses weigh against all this but since they're undisclosed, it makes everything seem very uneven on the face of it, and there are still far too many stories of fighters who can't make ends meet for their family without a second job, or who sometimes merely break even on a fight. I have a laundry list of suggestion that I think would be fair to both sides, but I'm kind of burnt out on this subject.

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Man U players get paid a lot more than UFC fighters.

fightsfan - I was just looking at the World MMA potential and its out there and growing fast with some huge countries and MMA fan bases still yet to get exposed to even more.

RUSSIA
CHINA
KOREA
JAPAN
GERMANY/EUROPE


Then why did the value of the UFC drop so much in 2012?



The net worths of the fertittas dropped by a lot and their casinos have been having great success.

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