First gene-edited babies claimed in China

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HONG KONG (AP) — A Chinese researcher claims that he helped make the world’s first genetically edited babies — twin girls whose DNA he said he altered with a powerful new tool capable of rewriting the very blueprint of life.

If true, it would be a profound leap of science and ethics.

A U.S. scientist said he took part in the work in China, but this kind of gene editing is banned in the United States because the DNA changes can pass to future generations and it risks harming other genes.

Many mainstream scientists think it’s too unsafe to try, and some denounced the Chinese report as human experimentation.

The researcher, He Jiankui of Shenzhen, said he altered embryos for seven couples during fertility treatments, with one pregnancy resulting thus far. He said his goal was not to cure or prevent an inherited disease, but to try to bestow a trait that few people naturally have — an ability to resist possible future infection with HIV, the AIDS virus.

He said the parents involved declined to be identified or interviewed, and he would not say where they live or where the work was done.

There is no independent confirmation of He’s claim, and it has not been published in a journal, where it would be vetted by other experts. He revealed it Monday in Hong Kong to one of the organizers of an international conference on gene editing that is set to begin Tuesday, and earlier in exclusive interviews with The Associated Press.

“I feel a strong responsibility that it’s not just to make a first, but also make it an example,” He told the AP. “Society will decide what to do next” in terms of allowing or forbidding such science.

Some scientists were astounded to hear of the claim and strongly condemned it.

It’s “unconscionable ... an experiment on human beings that is not morally or ethically defensible,” said Dr. Kiran Musunuru, a University of Pennsylvania gene editing expert and editor of a genetics journal.

“This is far too premature,” said Dr. Eric Topol, who heads the Scripps Research Translational Institute in California. “We’re dealing with the operating instructions of a human being. It’s a big deal.”

However, one famed geneticist, Harvard University’s George Church, defended attempting gene editing for HIV, which he called “a major and growing public health threat.”

“I think this is justifiable,” Church said of that goal.

In recent years scientists have discovered a relatively easy way to edit genes, the strands of DNA that govern the body. The tool, called CRISPR-cas9, makes it possible to operate on DNA to supply a needed gene or disable one that’s causing problems.

It’s only recently been tried in adults to treat deadly diseases, and the changes are confined to that person. Editing sperm, eggs or embryos is different — the changes can be inherited. In the U.S., it’s not allowed except for lab research. China outlaws human cloning but not specifically gene editing.

He Jiankui (HEH JEE’-an-qway), who goes by “JK,” studied at Rice and Stanford universities in the U.S. before returning to his homeland to open a lab at Southern University of Science and Technology of China in Shenzhen, where he also has two genetics companies.

The U.S. scientist who worked with him on this project after He returned to China was physics and bioengineering professor Michael Deem, who was his adviser at Rice in Houston. Deem also holds what he called “a small stake” in — and is on the scientific advisory boards of — He’s two companies.

The Chinese researcher said he practiced editing mice, monkey and human embryos in the lab for several years and has applied for patents on his methods.

He said he chose to try embryo gene editing for HIV because these infections are a big problem in China. He sought to disable a gene called CCR5 that forms a protein doorway that allows HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, to enter a cell.

All of the men in the project had HIV and all of the women did not, but the gene editing was not aimed at preventing the small risk of transmission, He said. The fathers had their infections deeply suppressed by standard HIV medicines and there are simple ways to keep them from infecting offspring that do not involve altering genes.

Instead, the appeal was to offer couples affected by HIV a chance to have a child that might be protected from a similar fate.

He recruited couples through a Beijing-based AIDS advocacy group called Baihualin. Its leader, known by the pseudonym “Bai Hua,” told the AP that it’s not uncommon for people with HIV to lose jobs or have trouble getting medical care if their infections are revealed.

Here is how He described the work:

The gene editing occurred during IVF, or lab dish fertilization. First, sperm was “washed” to separate it from semen, the fluid where HIV can lurk. A single sperm was placed into a single egg to create an embryo. Then the gene editing tool was added.

When the embryos were 3 to 5 days old, a few cells were removed and checked for editing. Couples could choose whether to use edited or unedited embryos for pregnancy attempts. In all, 16 of 22 embryos were edited, and 11 embryos were used in six implant attempts before the twin pregnancy was achieved, He said.

Tests suggest that one twin had both copies of the intended gene altered and the other twin had just one altered, with no evidence of harm to other genes, He said. People with one copy of the gene can still get HIV, although some very limited research suggests their health might decline more slowly once they do.

Several scientists reviewed materials that He provided to the AP and said tests so far are insufficient to say the editing worked or to rule out harm.

They also noted evidence that the editing was incomplete and that at least one twin appears to be a patchwork of cells with various changes.

“It’s almost like not editing at all” if only some of certain cells were altered, because HIV infection can still occur, Church said.

Church and Musunuru questioned the decision to allow one of the embryos to be used in a pregnancy attempt, because the Chinese researchers said they knew in advance that both copies of the intended gene had not been altered.

“In that child, there really was almost nothing to be gained in terms of protection against HIV and yet you’re exposing that child to all the unknown safety risks,” Musunuru said.

The use of that embryo suggests that the researchers’ “main emphasis was on testing editing rather than avoiding this disease,” Church said.

Even if editing worked perfectly, people without normal CCR5 genes face higher risks of getting certain other viruses, such as West Nile, and of dying from the flu. Since there are many ways to prevent HIV infection and it’s very treatable if it occurs, those other medical risks are a concern, Musunuru said.

There also are questions about the way He said he proceeded. He gave official notice of his work long after he said he started it — on Nov. 8, on a Chinese registry of clinical trials.

It’s unclear whether participants fully understood the purpose and potential risks and benefits. For example, consent forms called the project an “AIDS vaccine development” program.

The Rice scientist, Deem, said he was present in China when potential participants gave their consent and that he “absolutely” thinks they were able to understand the risks.

Deem said he worked with He on vaccine research at Rice and considers the gene editing similar to a vaccine.

“That might be a layman’s way of describing it,” he said.

Both men are physics experts with no experience running human clinical trials.

The Chinese scientist, He, said he personally made the goals clear and told participants that embryo gene editing has never been tried before and carries risks. He said he also would provide insurance coverage for any children conceived through the project and plans medical followup until the children are 18 and longer if they agree once they’re adults.

Further pregnancy attempts are on hold until the safety of this one is analyzed and experts in the field weigh in, but participants were not told in advance that they might not have a chance to try what they signed up for once a “first” was achieved, He acknowledged. Free fertility treatment was part of the deal they were offered.

He sought and received approval for his project from Shenzhen Harmonicare Women’s and Children’s Hospital, which is not one of the four hospitals that He said provided embryos for his research or the pregnancy attempts.

Some staff at some of the other hospitals were kept in the dark about the nature of the research, which He and Deem said was done to keep some participants’ HIV infection from being disclosed.

“We think this is ethical,” said Lin Zhitong, a Harmonicare administrator who heads the ethics panel.

Any medical staff who handled samples that might contain HIV were aware, He said. An embryologist in He’s lab, Qin Jinzhou, confirmed to the AP that he did sperm washing and injected the gene editing tool in some of the pregnancy attempts.

The study participants are not ethicists, He said, but “are as much authorities on what is correct and what is wrong because it’s their life on the line.”

“I believe this is going to help the families and their children,” He said. If it causes unwanted side effects or harm, “I would feel the same pain as they do and it’s going to be my own responsibility.”

Wow. I'm going to take it with a grain of salt, but imagine what this could be used for?

On a consumer level, the ability to have designer babies - eye/hair colour, future potential height etc.

Also imagine some crazy sci-fi utopian or dystopian shit too. Imagine people who can't die, or sports leagues full of athletes custom built to be perfect at that sport. Governments fighting wars using armies of super-soldiers. The future is awesome and scary.

they should all be executed.

I didn’t know HIV was a big issue in China. 

The rest is all just a matter of time before designer babies are a thing, so it doesn’t bother me. 

This is shitty.  They will breed and spread these genes everywhere.  Who know what unintended consequences might arise

Seems like a pretty dumb use of such tech. HIV is now a treatable disease. I’m not sure I believe this is a real story.

Annnnnnd...it begins.

Transhumanism is inevitable.  Its unstoppable.

Sooner rather than later, more than a handful of people are going to have to make this realization.  

This will actually work against the Chinese. Imagine how grade averages will drop as more of their kids are born with normal sized dicks. 

Im with the banned -

This will actually work against the Chinese. Imagine how grade averages will drop as more of their kids are born with normal sized dicks. 

I know you're crackin a joke but to use it to make an actual point....You think this is going to be used on the average population?

This is being developed for the elite, and for the government.  

CavemanDave -
Im with the banned -

This will actually work against the Chinese. Imagine how grade averages will drop as more of their kids are born with normal sized dicks. 

I know you're crackin a joke but to use it to make an actual point....You think this is going to be used on the average population?

This is being developed for the elite, and for the government.  

Not for a long time. Only private pay wealthies, or high end insurance may cover it. Obamacare ain’t doing shit for custom genetics. 

Welcome back to the NBA, white guys. Welcome back. 

This is a terrifying advent for humanity. There are uncountable ways this could be beneficial and uncountsbkr ways for this to spell the possible end for mankind.

Even further social and economic stratification comes to mind. The elite editing their childrento be more healthy, strong, intellectual and artistic etc....

But the body will fight back. It's not natural to leap a evolutionary gap in one generation. There is and will be vast and undefinable genetic abnormalities with this advent. 

Im with the banned -
CavemanDave -
Im with the banned -

This will actually work against the Chinese. Imagine how grade averages will drop as more of their kids are born with normal sized dicks. 

I know you're crackin a joke but to use it to make an actual point....You think this is going to be used on the average population?

This is being developed for the elite, and for the government.  

Not for a long time. Only private pay wealthies, or high end insurance may cover it. Obamacare ain’t doing shit for custom genetics. 

Welcome back to the NBA, white guys. Welcome back. 

I have an ugly feeling the extreme ends of this may not see the general public until it's an effort to essential immunize the cattle.

Depending on what discoveries this leads to, this could literally lead to a born ruling class and everybody else.

Cancer-proofing yourself will be coming soon

These Animals Don't Get Cancer, And Scientists Think They Could Hold a Cure

DAVID NIELD

15 OCT 2015

In trying to find a cure for cancer, where better to look than the animals that experience very low rates of the disease, or don't get it at all? That's the thinking behind new research into elephants and naked mole rats, which scientists are hoping could point the way towards better treatments in humans.

The root cause of cancer is a chance mutation in a group of cells, which is why it's puzzling that elephants get cancer so rarely - they have 100 times the number of cells us humans do, yet on average only 1 in 20 elephants develop the disease compared to 1 in 5 people.

A team of researchers in the US looked closer, and found an abundance of a gene called TP53. This gene is known for its ability to repair damaged DNA and thus halt the spread of cancer, and it's some 20 times more common in elephants than it is in human beings. It appears elephants have developed more of these genes as they've evolved, in part to protect calves born to older mothers.

"These findings, if replicated, could represent an evolutionary-based approach for understanding mechanisms related to cancer suppression," says the report, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

Naked mole rats are even more miraculous - they never develop cancer, even when scientists try and induce it artificially. What appears to be happening, at least according to a recent study, is that the mole rats are using natural mechanisms to clamp down on the spread of cancer and fight back against the mutation.

That mechanism involves a polymer called hyaluronan. The thickness of this polymer controls the mechanical strength of cells, but also regulates their growth at the same time. Researchers have been able to demonstrate how eradicating this polymer in naked mole rats allows cancers to spread as they normally would - which in turn suggests that hyaluronan could be crucial in keeping the disease at bay. The underground creatures have around five times the level of hyaluronan as humans do.

"We speculate that naked mole rats have evolved a higher concentration of hyaluronan in the skin to provide skin elasticity needed for life in underground tunnels," reads the separate report, published in Nature. "This trait may have then been co-opted to provide cancer resistance and longevity to this species."

It's a big biological jump from elephants and naked mole rats to human beings, of course - the species just aren't that alike - but the findings could still prove vitally important in developing treatments and cures in the future.

CavemanDave -
Im with the banned -
CavemanDave -
Im with the banned -

This will actually work against the Chinese. Imagine how grade averages will drop as more of their kids are born with normal sized dicks. 

I know you're crackin a joke but to use it to make an actual point....You think this is going to be used on the average population?

This is being developed for the elite, and for the government.  

Not for a long time. Only private pay wealthies, or high end insurance may cover it. Obamacare ain’t doing shit for custom genetics. 

Welcome back to the NBA, white guys. Welcome back. 

I have an ugly feeling the extreme ends of this may not see the general public until it's an effort to essential immunize the cattle.

Depending on what discoveries this leads to, this could literally lead to a born ruling class and everybody else.

Welcome to Gattaca

Meh, if there’s one country that can afford to have the herd thinned a bit by messing with the gene pool it’s China. 

Didn’t they watch The Wrath Of Khan??

We will be the first species to actively and consciously affect our own evolution.

if done ethically, it will have an impact on our species unequivocal to anything before.  It will be no less than one trillion times as impactful as the industrial revolution.

the ethics of it though are nuts.  I can get behind editing out disease, but should you be able to pay for blue eye or IQ?  You quickly create a very inequitable society; the demi-gods and the mortals.  It happens in less than a century.

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that a Chinese doctor studied at Rice?