Seems to be a consensus that Shavers hits harder but I am not so sure.
Thoughts?
Does it really matter? Either guy is a destructive puncher any way u slice it. Prob shavers tho foreman was just a much better boxer 
The ones who fought both said Shavers hit harder. They didn't elaborate on that and no follow up questions were asked. Shavers probably had a slight edge with his right hand, but no way was his left hand as good as Foreman's. Shaver's ko's came with his right hand while Foreman scored them with both hands.
AliBomaye - Does it really matter? Either guy is a destructive puncher any way u slice it. Prob shavers tho foreman was just a much better boxer
I suppose it doesn't matter . Neither does who was best PFP fighter of all time etc.
Just trying to get a conversation going
Who do you rate as hardest puncher of all time Martin?
ShamusO'nyou -HahahahahAliBomaye - Does it really matter? Either guy is a destructive puncher any way u slice it. Prob shavers tho foreman was just a much better boxer
I suppose it doesn't matter . Neither does who was best PFP fighter of all time etc.
Just trying to get a conversation going
ShamusO'nyou -I just meant whichever one hits u. Ur face is getting knocked across the ring. Didn't mean to be a cuntAliBomaye - Does it really matter? Either guy is a destructive puncher any way u slice it. Prob shavers tho foreman was just a much better boxer
I suppose it doesn't matter . Neither does who was best PFP fighter of all time etc.
Just trying to get a conversation going
lol no sweat
Lew Jenkins, Jack Dempsey, Stanley Ketchell, and Max Baer always seem to unfortunately get left out of modern discussions regarding the greatest punchers of all-time. That said, my love for the fighters from the early 1900s aside, I truly believe that the greatest puncher pound for pound who ever lived was Julian Jackson. I have never seen anyone with the freighting power in both hands that Jackson possessed. 
Fitz I think should be mentioned. IIRC Jack Johnson said he was the hardest puncher he fought.
Chappie - Lew Jenkins, Jack Dempsey, Stanley Ketchell, and Max Baer always seem to unfortunately get left out of modern discussions regarding the greatest punchers of all-time. That said, my love for the fighters from the early 1900s aside, I truly believe that the greatest puncher pound for pound who ever lived was Julian Jackson. I have never seen anyone with the freighting power in both hands that Jackson possessed.
i could go with jackson as well. just flat out fight ending power
at 1:24 of the shavers video the ref is trying to let the fight go on and the fighter just straight out collapses. shavers could punch
George Chuvalo didn't fight Earnie Shavers. Too bad. Came across what GC said about George Foreman:
"George Foreman was very heavy handed and there was a different feel to his shots. The best analogy would be Joe Frazier and Jerry Quarry hitting you was equivalent to being struck by a car at 100 mph, but when George landed it was like being hit by a mac truck at 50 mph. There was more weight in his punches."
hmmm...food for thought for the Earnie Shavers fans:
http://www.heavyweightblog.com/2318/earnie-shavers-power-puncher-or-overrated-featherfist
martinburke - lol
Stick, please tell me that's not your site.
that's my site
the other one was random surfing - not my site - didn't read - printed for train ride home though
Martin, he doesn't have valid points about Shavers?
that site is hilarious. doesn't really take into account the skill of the fighters earnie faced and the skill level of the klits oppenents. earnie fought in an era where the top guys were truly skilled fighters. they knew how to deflect punches, roll with them, move their head properly, footwok and knew how to spce themselves and stay at good ranges to be able to move in and move out.
that site has this formula up where they are selling you a bill of goods to make shavers look overrated. this falls in the category of damn lies and statistics. that site is proof you just cant just use numbers and have to watch the fights.
the wlad i saw, get wore down and brutalized by lamon brewster, barely survive against sam peter (the same sam peter that a guy who turned pro at 158lbs james toney was able to stand in front of for 24rds) and hesitate to truly engage with a david haye who just showed up to pose for the cameras. that wlad would not have been a world beater in the 70's. chris byrd, who was really a 170lb man, was able to come in and just using boxing skill and balls, able to beat the fearsome legendary puncher tua, pick up a win over vitaly, go 12 rounds with wlad in his prime. james toney who if in shape would be 168, was able to beat top 10 guys just by being able to fight.
shavers knock out percentage would be higher if he fought these guys and wlad's numbers would be lower if he fought in shavers' era. does anyone believer byrd and toney would have been top heavyweights in the 70's?
thank you gents! already VU'd Martin, just Vu'd you pharochuck
"Take for example Larry Holmes who claims (see quote above) that Shavers hit harder than Tyson. Yet Holmes survived only 3.5 rounds against Tyson (Larry's only KO'loss in his whole career) but 22.5 rounds against Shavers. It's this type of distorted assessment that feeds nostalgists to this very day."
Some people should be forcibly removed from the gene pool.
Chappie - Lew Jenkins, Jack Dempsey, Stanley Ketchell, and Max Baer always seem to unfortunately get left out of modern discussions regarding the greatest punchers of all-time. That said, my love for the fighters from the early 1900s aside, I truly believe that the greatest puncher pound for pound who ever lived was Julian Jackson. I have never seen anyone with the freighting power in both hands that Jackson possessed.
I think a strong argument could be made for this point.
Julian Jackson vs Tommy Hearns would be interesting.
Jackson turned peoples lights off *runs thumb across throat*
Hearns' knockout of Duran was a site to behold.
Maybe not the hardest hitters pound for pound but two good choices.