FOX Sports 1 still no deal with Dish/DIRECTV/TWC??

Reading from multiple sources that FOX Sports 1 has still yet to strike a carriage deal with Dish Network, DIRECTV, and Time Warner Cable. With launch date less than 3 weeks out this seems like a really big problem doesn't it? I'm gonna be super bummed if I miss the Shogun vs Sonnen card. Phone Post 3.0

Wow is that true? I'm on Comcast and ive been getting fucked without Fuel for years and it blows.

I thought I heard FS1 was in like 80-90 million homes? How could what youre saying be possible?

is fox finished with all their deals to put the network together?

perhaps they are waiting for some deals to materialize before signing with the carriers.

whatever franchise they have on the channel will influence their pricing big time for the carrier.

Do they mean it won't be on the basic package similar to the way fuel was, or even if we have the highest/premium package with DirecTv, we still won't get it? Phone Post

I thought speed was turning into fox sports 1? Phone Post 3.0

I don't get fuel or fox sports 1. Thanks Dana Phone Post

Can we get mmalogic in here already god damnit. Phone Post 3.0

Just got my Comcast bill, has a notice that Aug 17th Speed turns into FS1 so Comcast is good.  No word about Fuel/FS2 though.

And yeah no deal with Dish/DTV/TW yet but deals usually go down to the last minute.  Its expected DTV should have a deal done but if they dont get Dish/DTV/TW it will really kill them at launch. 

GayGuardMooseSaucy - I thought speed was turning into fox sports 1? Phone Post 3.0

It is, but like most things, it's more complicated than just that happening.

Fox wants the TV providers to pay almost 4 times as much for Fox Sports 1 as they were paying for Speed since FS1 will be much higher profile and draw more viewers. But paying so much more for an unproven channel is something the TV providers obviously have an issue with. So the negotiations could drag on.

What happened is some of the carriers wanted the rate to be the same as it was for Speed until the contracts are up.

Right now carriers pay about 23 cents per subscriber for Speed and Fox wants to up that to 80 cents to start and at the end of the contract it will be around 1.50 per subscriber.  So thats the problem.

They want to pay 23 cents now until the original contract is up but Fox is saying no to that, they want new deals with the carriers now. 

If you look its actually way cheaper than ESPN, think ESPn gets 5.47 per subscriber.

What happened with Comcast was their deals with Fox channels ran out end of 2012 and Comcast signed a new deal with Fox for all their channels thats why Comcast is set. 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/07/15/Media/FS1.aspx

 

A month before launching its much publicized all-sports network, Fox has yet to cut carriage deals with three of the country’s four biggest distributors, raising the possibility that its August launch of Fox Sports 1 will fall short of the 90 million homes the channel is expected to have.

DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable — representing more than 46 million subscribers — still are negotiating to carry FS1 on Aug. 17, which is when Fox will turn its motorsports channel, Speed, into a multisport network.

The fact that so many deals are open a month before a network launch is not unusual in the cable industry. Typically, carriage deals like FS1’s get finalized in the days leading up to or just after a channel’s launch.

Though talks have been described as amicable for the most part, news that some big deals aren’t done runs counter to the widespread belief in the sports industry that FS1 will flip a switch next month and launch to 90 million homes. While neither Fox nor distributors would comment about the state of talks, ticklish carriage negotiations and a new FS1 rate fee are slowing the process.

As with other sports TV deals these days, one of the main snags is over price. Distributors currently pay around 23 cents per subscriber per month for Speed, according to SNL Kagan. Sources say FS1 is being offered at 80 cents per subscriber per month at first, with increases that would push the fee to the $1.50 range over the life of a multiyear carriage deal.

Originally, distribution executives believed they would be able to carry FS1 at the same lower rate they pay for Speed until their Speed contracts end, but sources say Fox has not made that offer to any distributor that hasn’t signed new carriage deals.

Also complicating matters is the presence of other Fox-owned networks in the talks. For example, Fox also is converting Fox Soccer Channel into an entertainment channel called FXX and has to convince distributors to approve that change, too. Other Fox sports channels are part of the discussions, as well.

Take Time Warner Cable, for example. The cable operator does not carry the Fox-owned regional sports network FS San Diego. Time Warner Cable’s deal with YES Network, in which Fox holds an equity stake, ends after this season. Time Warner Cable executives were in Los Angeles last week talking to Fox about all these deals, sources said.

One of the main issues Fox is facing concerns the atmosphere around the high cost of sports rights. Several distributors recently have become emboldened by keeping sports channels off their systems. DirecTV has not reached an agreement for several regional sports networks, like CSN Houston, CSN Portland, Longhorn Network and the Pac-12 Networks. Dish Network has not cut deals with several RSNs, including YES Network and TWC SportsNet.

Since David Hill and Fox announced the coming of FS1, it has been seen as a competitor for ESPN.
Photo by: WILLIAM HAUSER / FOX SPORTS 1
But FS1 expects to be different, positioning itself as an alternative that could help distributors keep the high-priced ESPN in check. Fox executives have billed the new channel not as a launch but as a rebrand, of Speed, and the new multisport network is seen as the biggest challenge yet to ESPN.

If FS1 launches to less than full distribution, some of the wind could be taken out of its promotional sails at the outset.

One unanswered question is what will happen if a distributor fails to reach an agreement for FS1. Time Warner Cable, DirecTV and Dish Network have contracts that call for carriage of a Fox-produced motorsports channel. If Fox simply goes dark, it could be in violation of those deals, sources said.

It’s not clear what Fox will provide distributors that don’t cut FS1 deals but still have contracts to carry Speed. Distributors say they’ve been told that one option is that Fox will provide a watered-down motorsports channel that would run in place of Speed, possibly even keeping the Speed name. There’s precedence for such a move: When Fox switched Fox Reality Channel into NatGeo Wild last year, it provided a several-hour loop of reality programming for the distributors that did not sign deals for NatGeo Wild.

The increased distribution and affiliate fees are important to Fox. Its executives have said that they expect FS1 to be profitable in the next two or three years, something that can only be achieved once they work out the affiliate deals.

Fox is counting on the strength of FS1’s schedule, which includes 5,000 hours of live-event programming a year, and FS1’s TV Everywhere components to convince distributors to cut deals.

Fox’s president of distribution, Mike Hopkins, is leading the affiliate negotiations for the broadcaster.

Sucks. I have no faith in time Warner getting it done by aug 17 Phone Post 3.0

TV Life has been great since I switched to uverse Phone Post 3.0

I get both FUEL and the Speed channel.
I'm not going to pay for FUEL though...

Dish better get that shit squared away or im switching!!!! Phone Post 3.0

And looks like FS1 will be standard definition on Dish if they work the deal. ...sucks big time. Phone Post 3.0

I believe Direct TV is 99% done.

Dish Network shouldnt be a problem.  TW is a question mark. 

If they are not in at least 80m homes by launch date it will be dissapointing.

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I believe Direct TV is 99% done.



Dish Network shouldnt be a problem.  TW is a question mark. 



If they are not in at least 80m homes by launch date it will be dissapointing.

Great news. I was getting worried about Direct TV... Phone Post 3.0

Holy shit, i thought Fuel was changing to FS1 on the relaunch. But its SPEED?! I dont get that on my package on dish! what the actual fuck!? The entire reason i went with the Dish package im on (americas top 120+) was for FuelTV and its UFC programming and cant afford to up my package! I seriously hope the negotiation to get the channel include access to it from a lower package or I will lose my shit.

Just called dish and they said they will be getting fox sports and it supposed to come up on as a local channel. So i guess it wont be in hd. But dish will be getting it Phone Post 3.0