Opinions either way?
no gi, only if you know how to gi first.
Gi first all the way. Jokes are made about it being pajamas and what not. But Gi is where you learn all the grips. There are more variations to sweeps, submissions, and position control (offense & defense.)
(getting the Bow & Arrow choke on someone is a pretty dominate feeling)
The main adjustments from gi to no gi is learning to cuff someone rather than grab. And the slipperly factor but that will change when you get your no gi "cuffs" figured out.
I agree with all when they say that you need to learn gi first.
Personally I enjoy no gi a lot more because it is a little more realistic. Plus I'm broke and can't afford all of those fancy shmancy gis that cost an arm and a leg.
I started out doing just gi when i lived in Hawaii training at Ronn's Kaneohe academy. He laid the ground work for my jiu-jitsu with the gi.
When I moved to Vegas, I started to train in both. The only knowing gi jj did not inhibit my new found no gi jj.
IMO, Gi first if you've never grappled before. If you've done something like wrestling, then it won't matter.
The gi helps new BJJ players to learn how to move their bodies properly so they don't hurt themselves. Also, they learn how to balance themselves better because there are so many more angles you have to defend for gi sweeps. I also think it helps even out people who aren't as athletic. Good for older people. Just my 2 cents.
What's a Gi?
what r clothes? (for that matter) oh man!
Three scenarios when a GI is realistic outside of a dojo.
- Someone snatches my dates corsage at my next winter ball. Bam! Clock choke for that dude.
- My wedding party strolls into the wrong banquet room at the Hale Koa hotel. Game on! Lapel choking fools left and right.
- My waiter at John Domonis spits in my soup du jour. Ka-pow! Sleeve choke for one.
Booyakakakakaka
actually, it's a lot more realistic than people think. in fact, when the stoopid "bah i train" punk goes to take his shirt off and yell "chee hoo", before that sucker leaves his body--FALSE CHOKE from the front. then leave his unconscious body w/ shirt half off over his limp body w/ urine soaking it down to keep it real.
aloha :)
Sounds like Mark's last post is not a thought, but was an action...
all hear say...
I'll leave it at that.... don't need my shirt being wrapped around my neck :-)
"hen the stoopid "bah i train" punk goes to take his shirt off and yell "chee hoo", before that sucker leaves his body"
LOL
...i see you know of what i speak. :)
With the proliferation of MMA the gi will lose popularity. Everyday there are more and more beginners that start without the gi, especially wrestling crossovers.
Logically, if MMA is your goal, then training with the gi is not the most efficient use of your time. Bravo, although admittedly overhyped, is right about that.
However, the gi will always enjoy a greater proportion of participants than the fight game based solely on the fact that the majority of society does not enjoy getting hit in the head for fun...unless you're in HI.
"Bravo, although admittedly overhyped, is right about that."
Bravo did train in the gi for many years.
True, but that does not necessarily take away from his credibility. In fact I believe it adds to it.
If he had not, people would say he doesn't know what he's talking about because he isn't properly trained in gi.
His moves are based off variations of the gi moves. Where would he have come up with those moves without having trained gi first?
The gi helped him create a solid base to work from when he decided he liked no-gi better.
bravo san has since put the gi back on no?