A few questions about the gloves used in the different fight shows in our great state.
* are they provided by the promoters or fighters?
what brand/weight/styles are allowed?
If they are provided by fighters, who is responsible for checking the condition prior to the fight?
I've looked for this on about every forum I could think of and couldn't findit. Sorry if it has been covered before.
Thanks Blake. I noticed in pics of some fights that the fighters seemed to be wearing different brands but I didn't know for sure.
Not sure about the other sanctioning orgs but the ISCF is working on a list of approved gloves.
I can tell you that the Fairtex gloves will more than likely NOT be on that list. The reason being is that all the padding is on the back of the hand and not on the knuckles. Pretty much a worthless MMA glove. If you are the puncher, they are great, but if you are getting punched they suck.
Also, the Century MMA gloves will not be on the list.
I'm talking about the cheapass vinyl ones, not the leather wristwrap gloves.
The Ouano's will more than likely be approved for pro MMA and a few of the CSI models. The ISCF is also going to be producing their own line of approved gear for MMA and kickboxing in the future.
As far as promoters providing gloves, not very many orgs do that. It's usually left up to the fighters to provide their own gloves, although most promoters do have gloves in case a fighter is without.
Peace-
Cam
Thanks for the info Cam. Any idea on when they might have the list ready?
in amature fights you're not supposed to wear 6oz so i ordered Combat International 6oz's but everyone i fought so far has had 4oz gloves on so before i fight next i'm orderin Ouano's b/c i'm tired of gettin hit with illegal gloves while i'm fightin in legal gloves. 2oz make a bit of a difference when someones hittin ya.
Team Bushido Fighter,
Jason "The Hurricane" Hudson
There is no rule that I am aware of that says amateurs are required to wear 6 oz. gloves (in ISCF, don't know about other orgs.). The ISCF was thinking of going to that but I think the idea was nixed.
Rules on glove sizes can be seen here
http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFRules4.htm
There is no distinction made between glove sizees for ams or pros, only that no gloves smaller than 4 oz. are allowed.
Jason, who told you that you were required to wear 6 oz. gloves?
Don't you use the CSI Amateur Competition gloves?
If so, most of the extra weight is on the thumb piece and the pad on the thumb so it's not extra padding across the knuckles. The knuckle padding on that glove is about the same as a 4 oz. glove. Actually, you have the advantage because you have basically the same amount of padding but your hand is 2 oz. heavier so you are hitting them with heavier hands than they are hitting you with.
Peace-
Cam
i could have swore that ISCF rules i printed out said ams can't wear any less than 6oz gloves. i'm gonna double check, but to the heavier hands i don't believe thatb/c i used to box and i'd rather get hit with a bigger heavier glove its not the weight of the glove its power behind shot imo, and i've wore Fairtex/Ouano's and CSI Amateur Competition gloves (yes thats what i fight in) and on the 4oz gloves it seemed to me that the padding sat farther back on my hand rather than over my knuckles. oh cam my trainer is being shipped to Iraq in early May and i'm fighting May 13 if i need somewhere to train like the week before i fight would it be alright to come do a little rollin with yall. thanks jason
well Cam i must apoligize i guess the rule has changed since i had my first fight b/c the print out i have at home and the website are different, my print out is ISCF and does state that am and pro must wear different gloves but when i checked the website it stated no less than 4oz gloves thanks for pointing that out, but i still disagree about the heavier glove making more powerful punches. let me know about the training with yall thanks.
Jason
You must have gotten a print out of rules that was in effect when they were considering implementing that rule. Sorry. Fortunately they decided against it.
As far as more weight equals more power...
Physics disagrees with you. I used to do toughman competitions where everyone wore the same gloves. After 12 or so fights the 16 oz. gloves had accumulated about another pound and a half of sweat so they weighed 2 and a half pounds. Of course they made it harder to hold the hands up longer and were heavier to throw but when they connected it was BAD.
Think of it this way... would you rather get hit in the head with a pool cue stick or a sledge hammer?
The common misconception is that gloves protect the person getting hit. In actuality the gloves only protect the person's hands. The internal damage is exactly the same and is compounded by the mass + velocity ratio and the weight of the gloves contributes to this. More mass = more damage. Heavier gloves = more mass.
Again, the glove you use has a thumb piece with a pad in it (I train in a very similar glove) and that thumb piece and pad account for most of the extra weight so the extra weight is NOT extra padding on the knuckles. Because of that the knuckle padding on your 6 oz. gloves and the knuckle padding on regular 4 oz. gloves with no thumb piece are relatively the same. The only difference is that your's weigh more meaning more weight = more mass = more damage.
You are welcome at our school any time.
Peace-
Cam
There are several different companies that are making a quality mma glove now days. Check out Woldorf and Gameness, they both have a good glove.
i appreciate being able to train at your school. Thanks again.
Jason