Government Shut Down - Who's Fault is it REALLY?

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2013/10/04/who-shut-down-the-government-n1716292?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Even when it comes to something as basic, and apparently as simple and straightforward, as the question of who shut down the federal government, there are diametrically opposite answers, depending on whether you talk to Democrats or to Republicans.

There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going -- except for ObamaCare.

This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.

As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.

Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion.

ObamaCare is indeed "the law of the land," as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its Constitutionality.

But the whole point of having a division of powers within the federal government is that each branch can decide independently what it wants to do or not do, regardless of what the other branches do, when exercising the powers specifically granted to that branch by the Constitution.

The hundreds of thousands of government workers who have been laid off are not idle because the House of Representatives did not vote enough money to pay their salaries or the other expenses of their agencies -- unless they are in an agency that would administer ObamaCare.

Since we cannot read minds, we cannot say who -- if anybody -- "wants to shut down the government." But we do know who had the option to keep the government running and chose not to. The money voted by the House of Representatives covered everything that the government does, except for ObamaCare.

The Senate chose not to vote to authorize that money to be spent, because it did not include money for ObamaCare. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that he wants a "clean" bill from the House of Representatives, and some in the media keep repeating the word "clean" like a mantra. But what is unclean about not giving Harry Reid everything he wants?

If Senator Reid and President Obama refuse to accept the money required to run the government, because it leaves out the money they want to run ObamaCare, that is their right. But that is also their responsibility.

You cannot blame other people for not giving you everything you want. And it is a fraud to blame them when you refuse to use the money they did vote, even when it is ample to pay for everything else in the government.

When Barack Obama keeps claiming that it is some new outrage for those who control the money to try to change government policy by granting or withholding money, that is simply a bald-faced lie. You can check the history of other examples of "legislation by appropriation" as it used to be called.

Whether legislation by appropriation is a good idea or a bad idea is a matter of opinion. But whether it is both legal and not unprecedented is a matter of fact.

Perhaps the biggest of the big lies is that the government will not be able to pay what it owes on the national debt, creating a danger of default. Tax money keeps coming into the Treasury during the shutdown, and it vastly exceeds the interest that has to be paid on the national debt.

Even if the debt ceiling is not lifted, that only means that government is not allowed to run up new debt. But that does not mean that it is unable to pay the interest on existing debt.

None of this is rocket science. But unless the Republicans get their side of the story out -- and articulation has never been their strong suit -- the lies will win. More important, the whole country will lose.

All of them.

Sagiv Lapkin - 


All of them.


I blame putin. He made oboma feel like a little girl and now he's not feeling like negotiating. This could beva chance for dems and repubs to come together and iron out some of the already aparent flaws in the affordable care act but now the the potus has his panties in a wad he most likely wont be willing to admit there is room for improvement. Phone Post

Obama never learned to work with others,this is what happens when your total experience is half a senate term. And yes Putin did make him look like a bitch.

warmonky - Obama never learned to work with others,this is what happens when your total experience is half a senate term. And yes Putin did make him look like a bitch.


This and Putin didn't even have to do anything, Obumer/Kerry walked right into it and handed it to Putin.  



What tools..

MisterFixit -
Sagiv Lapkin - 


All of them.


This. Phone Post 3.0

Trust - Do you think that House having the sole appropriation power is a check on any other branch of government? Phone Post

It kind of depends on if they use it or not. Phone Post

Here lies Rufus, who after defeating Vindex, did not take power, but gave it to the fatherland

Vizslarex - Tea party is at fault Phone Post 3.0


Socialist wing is at fault.

The fault lies on both sides and those that fail to see it are the ones truly at fault.

The electorate is to blame. we keep voting this nimrods in office and we should suffer the consequences of those votes.

it is not republican vs democrat. it is republican and democrat vs the american people.

i think the saying is "democracy is when the people get the government they deserve, and they get it good". Or something like that.

MisterFixit - The fault lies on both sides and those that fail to see it are the ones truly at fault.
Bingo!!!! Phone Post 3.0