Gracie Breakdown: The death of Eric Garner

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                    <p>On July 17, 2014, 6&#39; 4&quot;, 350 pound Eric Garner died immediately after an altercation with officers of the New York Police Department. Mr. Garner was allegedly selling un-taxed cigarettes on the street for 50 cents each. As caught on video, during the altercation one of the officers applied a neck restraint to control Mr. Garner and get him to the ground.</p>

Although the mainstream media has clung onto the idea that the "choke-hold" is what caused Mr. Garner's death, Ryron and Rener offer their own opinions on the incident based on their experience as life-long jiu-jitsu practitioners and lead defensive tactics instructors of the Gracie Survival Tactics (GST) program for law enforcement. The Gracie brothers also discuss the challenges that arise when arresting subjects with pre-existing medical conditions and demonstrate some of the GST techniques that enable officers to control and arrest unruly subjects with the least amount of force possible.

This video is over 40 minutes in length. If use of force by law enforcement is an area of interest, please check out
Canadian Police Research Center study
Force Science Institute study comparing the injury rate for five common force options: Empty-hand control techniques, Baton, OC spray, Conducted energy weapons (Tasers), Lateral vascular neck restraint.

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In 4 later Phone Post 3.0

Overweight an had a heart attack.  Thats my breakdown.

8:30... "we dont believe that the choke caused Garner's death"

Just saved u all 40 minutes now get back to fapping

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MrZipplokk - 


Overweight an had a heart attack.  Thats my breakdown.


Correct.

People can debate the validity of arresting the guy for selling loose cigarettes, but being 350 pounds and out of shape in your 40's (and trying to resist arrest) is a recipe for disaster.

This happened at a club I worked at a few years ago. We had a fight break out, my manager grabbed a guy in a RNC and the guy ended up dying.

Pretty crazy and my manager went to jail. I'm not sure the rule for cops but bouncers are not supposed to apply any chokes. The guy ended up having drugs in his system, overweight and drunk so that didn't help the situation I'm sure. Phone Post 3.0

Well, he was selling cheap smokes.  He deserved to die anyway.

 

RIP

For later

Asthma, overweight, and 5 cops on top of you = blood pressure skrockets = heart attack.

 

RIP poor dude was just trying to eek out a living selling $0.50 cigarettes! This guy didn't deserve to die.

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Breakdown of someone's death dafu Phone Post 3.0

Nitecrawler - Later. Phone Post 3.0

incredibly tacky video

camozzi - This happened at a club I worked at a few years ago. We had a fight break out, my manager grabbed a guy in a RNC and the guy ended up dying.

Pretty crazy and my manager went to jail. I'm not sure the rule for cops but bouncers are not supposed to apply any chokes. The guy ended up having drugs in his system, overweight and drunk so that didn't help the situation I'm sure. Phone Post 3.0

Damn.

Saw a guy last weekend get choked unconscious by a 300 pound bouncer while like 3 others held him down.

It was pretty disgusting to watch.

Madrugadao - Jesus Christ. Didn't watch but maybe stick to breaking down fights. Not sure a BJJ blackbelt qualifies you to comment on things like this. Somewhat whorish.
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Madrugadao - Jesus Christ. Didn't watch but maybe stick to breaking down fights. Not sure a BJJ blackbelt qualifies you to comment on things like this. Somewhat whorish.

I haven't watched either, so could be talking out of my ass here, but i assume they're jumping on this to present that a quick choke unconscious probably won't kill somebody.

As it's a major part of their business, culture, and way of life.

Yeah maybe the choke had nothing to do with it, but i'm sure a cop wrapping his arm around his neck at least would have contributed to whatever the cause of death was.

There probably was a better way to deal with the situation, but when you have a big guy and you're also worried about your own safety as well, some guys don't make the best choices.

He wasn't a threat, he wasn't unruly.

This was manslaughter because of racist, irresponsible cops working in a racist, irresponsible system.

Read up on the story folks and if you have a heart, you'll feel for this man and his family that just lost a husband and dad for NOTHING.

hooha - He wasn't a threat, he wasn't unruly.

This was manslaughter because of racist, irresponsible cops working in a racist, irresponsible system.

Read up on the story folks and if you have a heart, you'll feel for this man and his family that just lost a husband and dad for NOTHING.
They'd have done the same to a big white or Latino too...

Really don't see the race card here, just over abuse of power Phone Post 3.0