Great Pyramids/Ancient Egypt thread

Also I mentioned in the other thread that inspired OP to start this one, about a theory I saw posted on here that the pyramids were hundreds of years old rather than thousands. It seemd ludicrous to me, I wish I could remember the details of the theory.

 

I'm off to google (or duckduckgo to be precise) to see if I can find any website or video about it.

TheRoguewrestler -
TFK_TexBP - 
TheRoguewrestler - How advanced could they have been? They built structures out of cut rocks. Wasn't like they were some kind of alloy that would last throughout time.

How old are the pyramids?


My point was, Would we choose to build a structure out of rocks if we were intending it to last thousands of years? Probably not. You would probably find some alloys somewhere within the structure. Would we also carve pictures on the walls?

As someone said, I think stone outlasts most materials.  

In for this. Fascinating stuff.

Some of those rocks are amazing how they are cut to shape so perfectly.

Rambo John J -

Advanced Ancient Civilizations built a lot of this stuff before the last big ice age I suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis

The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis or Clovis comet hypothesis posits that fragments of a large (more than 4 kilometers in diameter), disintegrating asteroid or comet struck North America, South America, Europe, and western Asia about 12,800 years ago. 

 

 

I'm no rocket scientist, but how does a 4 km astroid or comet strike all those different continents? 

 

 

Edit: woops missed the bit about fragments

Banjaxo -

Also I mentioned in the other thread that inspired OP to start this one, about a theory I saw posted on here that the pyramids were hundreds of years old rather than thousands. It seemd ludicrous to me, I wish I could remember the details of the theory.

 

I'm off to google (or duckduckgo to be precise) to see if I can find any website or video about it.

OK no joy with the young pyramid theory, but I did find this video. It's one of the wackier theories I've heard.

 

The narrator believes that the Great Pyramid at Giza was an electrical generator. It used some kind of resonant water pump (formed by passages and chambers within the pyramid and fed by water from the Nile), which produced sound, which then resonated within other galleries and finally within the king's chamber. There the large granite blocks somehow produced an electrical charge.

 

He reckons this was done in order to artificially increase rainfall in the region.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGB_7n8V_y4

 

Sounds like so much fanciful bullshit to me, but it would explain the rain erosion on the Sphynx lol.

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leifdawg - 
Rambo John J -

Advanced Ancient Civilizations built a lot of this stuff before the last big ice age I suspect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis

The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis or Clovis comet hypothesis posits that fragments of a large (more than 4 kilometers in diameter), disintegrating asteroid or comet struck North America, South America, Europe, and western Asia about 12,800 years ago. 

 

 

I'm no rocket scientist, but how does a 4 km astroid or comet strike all those different continents? 

 

 

Edit: woops missed the bit about fragments


 


It would disrupt the planets systems/weather/ocean levels/sunlight/temperature etc.. and cause a mass extinction...very few animals and humans would remain.


 


Randall Carlson has found evidence indicating a series of strikes around that time actually, so it may not have been one.


The Beta Taurid Meteor Stream is something that passes very close to earth every so often and is thought to be a possible source for impacts


"The Beta Taurid is a stream of meteoroids that regularly produces a modest display of meteors each year in late June, and the idea is that embedded within it may be some much larger chunks that might possibly pose a danger to Earth. Canadian astronomers David Clark, Paul Wiegert and Peter Brown at Western University speculate that there could be a connection between the Beta Taurid meteor stream and the massive airburst that occurred over Tunguska, Russia, in June 1908. "

Banjaxo - 
Rambo John J -
Poiupoiu - why arent there any fossils from these people?
 

I think you need to do some reading and research my friend

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/03/early-human-footprints-found-canada-ice-age-spd/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-bones-spark-fresh-debate-over-first-humans-in-the-americas/

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/world/early-human-skulls-greece-scn/index.html

To be fair, I think what Poiupoiu was asking is "why aren't there 13,000 year old remains of the people that built the pyramids" rather than arguing that there aren't remains of humans that date back that far (and further).


Fair enough...he seems rather skeptical...not gonna find a "smoking gun" of a fossil holding a resume of what he has done in his life...just gonna find lots of clues 

A fossil of a human doesn't really tell the tale of what that human has done in their lives or what that generation has done...I think most fossils that are really old and found were only preserved due to some rare circumstances...most bones turn to dust after enough time.

And some humans don't bury their dead at all or try to preserve them, some even burn or sky burial them.

Structures and Stone buildings are much more interesting and important than a human fossil IMO.

Banjaxo - 
Banjaxo -

Also I mentioned in the other thread that inspired OP to start this one, about a theory I saw posted on here that the pyramids were hundreds of years old rather than thousands. It seemd ludicrous to me, I wish I could remember the details of the theory.

 

I'm off to google (or duckduckgo to be precise) to see if I can find any website or video about it.

OK no joy with the young pyramid theory, but I did find this video. It's one of the wackier theories I've heard.

 

The narrator believes that the Great Pyramid at Giza was an electrical generator. It used some kind of resonant water pump (formed by passages and chambers within the pyramid and fed by water from the Nile), which produced sound, which then resonated within other galleries and finally within the king's chamber. There the large granite blocks somehow produced an electrical charge.

 

He reckons this was done in order to artificially increase rainfall in the region.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGB_7n8V_y4

 

Sounds like so much fanciful bullshit to me, but it would explain the rain erosion on the Sphynx lol.


possible

or maybe the Sphynx is much older than current consensus states it is.

Rambo John J -
Banjaxo - 
Rambo John J -
Poiupoiu - why arent there any fossils from these people?
 

I think you need to do some reading and research my friend

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/03/early-human-footprints-found-canada-ice-age-spd/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-bones-spark-fresh-debate-over-first-humans-in-the-americas/

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/world/early-human-skulls-greece-scn/index.html

To be fair, I think what Poiupoiu was asking is "why aren't there 13,000 year old remains of the people that built the pyramids" rather than arguing that there aren't remains of humans that date back that far (and further).


Fair enough...he seems rather skeptical...not gonna find a "smoking gun" of a fossil holding a resume of what he has done in his life...just gonna find lots of clues 

A fossil of a human doesn't really tell the tale of what that human has done in their lives or what that generation has done...I think most fossils that are really old and found were only preserved due to some rare circumstances...most bones turn to dust after enough time.

And some humans don't bury their dead at all or try to preserve them, some even burn or sky burial them.

Structures and Stone buildings are much more interesting and important than a human fossil IMO.


True, I was just giving my interpretation of where he was coming from.


 


It would be really cool to find that there was a civilization 12000+ years ago building stuff like this, but as far as i have seen the evidence is flimsy at this stage.


 


Having said that, the evidence for feathered dinosaurs was considered flimsy not too long ago.

Banjaxo

There is some evidence mounting to suggest this hypothesis may be accurate, but after 12000 years not much would be left as most would be lost to the sands of time.

Fascinating topic to think about, I enjoy discussing it.

All skepticism and optimism is appreciated from my perspective.

Anyone who believes pyramids are made by aliens is a ass. Really it's the easiest shape to build, not that ancient people didn't have problems with them, there are failed pyramids that show people learned on their mistakes or that aliens weren't that advanced builders...

 

Also moving big rocks takes some ingenuity like this guys shows.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c

 

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Poiupoiu - 
Rambo John J - 
Poiupoiu - why arent there any fossils from these people?


I think you need to do some reading and research my friend


 


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/03/early-human-footprints-found-canada-ice-age-spd/


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-bones-spark-fresh-debate-over-first-humans-in-the-americas/


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/10/world/early-human-skulls-greece-scn/index.html




some cave dweller in north america that ate a mastodon is evidence of an advanced civilization that built the pyramids ?



I did not say that at all, you are misinterpreting or twisting my words(a single sentence^)


I provided links to fossils and existence of man all over the planet 13000+ years ago, nothing more nothing less.


 


I don't think a fossil can prove that the human flesh that once was attached built a pyramid...that is speculation.


 


I guess your question is rather vague.

marquis_wu - 

Anyone who believes pyramids are made by aliens is a ass. Really it's the easiest shape to build, not that ancient people didn't have problems with them, there are failed pyramids that show people learned on their mistakes or that aliens weren't that advanced builders...

 

Also moving big rocks takes some ingenuity like this guys shows.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c

 


Good post, I enjoy that guys video...love the physics


Could he do it with a block 1000 times that large?  Could he quarry a block that large?


How would he transport it 100 miles like some of these distance between Quarries and Stone Buildings?


 


I don't think aliens did it personally...I do think there may have been a lost technology in play.

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Rambo John J -
marquis_wu - 

Anyone who believes pyramids are made by aliens is a ass. Really it's the easiest shape to build, not that ancient people didn't have problems with them, there are failed pyramids that show people learned on their mistakes or that aliens weren't that advanced builders...

 

Also moving big rocks takes some ingenuity like this guys shows.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5pZ7uR6v8c

 


Good post, I enjoy that guys video...love the physics


Could he do it with a block 1000 times that large?  Could he quarry a block that large?


How would he transport it 100 miles like some of these distance between Quarries and Stone Buildings?


 


I don't think aliens did it personally...I do think there may have been a lost technology in play.



"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."


- Archimedes

Rambo John J -
TheRoguewrestler - How advanced could they have been? They built structures out of cut rocks. Wasn't like they were some kind of alloy that would last throughout time.


pretty advanced actually...modern tech would have trouble shaping and fitting a wall this tight


let alone moving some of the larger stones


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Lol you are seriously understanding monder tech. Yes it could re create this and more precise. I'm not discrediting how amazing it is for an ancient race to have an Einstein level Stone Mason/architect.

marquis_wu - 
Rambo John J -
marquis_wu - 

Anyone who believes pyramids are made by aliens is a ass. Really it's the easiest shape to build, not that ancient people didn't have problems with them, there are failed pyramids that show people learned on their mistakes or that aliens weren't that advanced builders...

 

Also moving big rocks takes some ingenuity like this guys shows.

 

 


Good post, I enjoy that guys video...love the physics


Could he do it with a block 1000 times that large?  Could he quarry a block that large?


How would he transport it 100 miles like some of these distance between Quarries and Stone Buildings?


 


I don't think aliens did it personally...I do think there may have been a lost technology in play.



"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."


- Archimedes



 


word...would love to see the method and the fulcrum


 


I would like to correct my above post...largest known block on earth is roughly 85 times larger than the one the man in your video has moved


interesting stuff


great understanding of physics was definately needed.

The Pendulum -

I'll make a post on this soon, but there's some seriously weird coincidences all over the world with stone blocks and shit like that.

 

The pyramids are just the start.

I have no idea how to post what I want to, I can't word it well. There's too much information I'm trying to get out.

 

Anyone ever heard of the Kaimanawa Wall?

JiuJitsuHeyZeus - 
Rambo John J -
TheRoguewrestler - How advanced could they have been? They built structures out of cut rocks. Wasn't like they were some kind of alloy that would last throughout time.


pretty advanced actually...modern tech would have trouble shaping and fitting a wall this tight


let alone moving some of the larger stones


Image result for ancient stone puma punku images


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Lol you are seriously understanding monder tech. Yes it could re create this and more precise. I'm not discrediting how amazing it is for an ancient race to have an Einstein level Stone Mason/architect.




I didn't say impossible...I said difficult...I work with stone masons as a job, I realize these can be moved and even shaped(rarely done) by modern tech.


I appreciate the skepticism, great for discussion.


FYI Most of these sites have inferior stonework on top of the amazing level stuff...indicating a possible losing of the technology or method(aka setback of civilization, and potential death of the majority of humans)

The Pendulum - 
The Pendulum -

I'll make a post on this soon, but there's some seriously weird coincidences all over the world with stone blocks and shit like that.

 

The pyramids are just the start.

I have no idea how to post what I want to, I can't word it well. There's too much information I'm trying to get out.

 

Anyone ever heard of the Kaimanawa Wall?


New Zealand...very interesting...looking at it right now and reading about it.

Rogan had a guy on that was balls deep into Egyptian stuff, can't remember his name. But what I took away from it was that there's a shitload of politics involved in questioning the history of Egyptians. A bunch of researchers think the pyramids and the sphinx are much older(and maybe even rebuilt)but natives don't want to hear any of that.