GSP vs McGregor at MSG

Cleanemissions -

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)

Holy fucking shit...

I've never used this phase but you have way too much time on your hands Phone Post 3.0

Cann - If this news is legit, then is it safe to say McGregor is getting stripped of the Featherweight title?

GSP should win this one, but with all the time away, who knows where GSP is at?

OMG, is that all people can think about is a belt?


This is a great fight and I hope Conor leaves Aldo with a worthless belt.

Big money but Conor will be absolutely wrecked if GSP returns in any type of form

And being the pro he is he'll come in ready Phone Post 3.0

Cleanemissions - 

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)


That is a really clever breakdown. Voted up!

Hope to see more of your posts in the future.

Cleanemissions -

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)

Except GSP would have no problem whatsoever taking Conor down. Fight over. Phone Post 3.0

Tittalating... Phone Post 3.0

Lol. If this fight actually happens Connor gets taken down and destroyed. Phone Post 3.0

Gartlin -
Cleanemissions -

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)

Except GSP would have no problem whatsoever taking Conor down. Fight over. Phone Post 3.0
Sometimes saying less is more. This is an example. Phone Post 3.0

Cleanemissions -

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)

Holy shit... Phone Post 3.0

I'm skeptical cause Conor knows deep down he can't compete at 170 efficiency Phone Post 3.0

Not a chance. No one's calling for that fight lol Phone Post 3.0

Not unless Eddie Alvarez changed his name to gsp Phone Post 3.0

So many GSP rumors the last few days.  Damon Martin was saying on Twitter today that he thinks Cowboy is fighting GSP at MSG.  Because Cowboy said something about fighting a friend who is his girlfriends 2nd favorite fighter.

This would be bigger then the fight with Nate Phone Post 3.0

But GSP won't be cleared to go by MSG card as per USADA Phone Post 3.0

Conor-GSP
JBJ-Cormier
Alvarez-Ferguson
Garbrandt-Cruz
Weidman-Jacare Phone Post 3.0

Good post, cleane. I still think GSP would win, but you made some interesting points. Don't let the OG illiterates keep you from posting in the future. Phone Post 3.0

ocbadapple - But GSP won't be cleared to go by MSG card as per USADA Phone Post 3.0

I thought it was 3 months? I could be wrong, but that's what I thought I heard, and it will be 3 months by then considering he began testing a few weeks ago. Maybe that's why he started when he did.

I called this in January only a couple weeks after McGregor won the featherweight title, long before he was even considered for a fight at welterweight. I looked to the sky and saw it written in the stars gents, now the whispers indicate my nostradamus spidey senses are damn near spot on!

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/UnderGround/CONOR-vs-GSP-in-one-year---Biggest-MMA-Fight-EVA:2523446-1

Cleanemissions -

Might as well take this oppurtunity to breakdown the fight

Gsp working effectively behind his jab was a near perfect MMA fighter. Gsp's jab served multiple uses. Gsp would jab to control range/control tempo, and off his jab work Gsp would land more offence or utilise fients/level changes/TDs. It was really hard for opponents to anticipate Gsp.

-An opponent would step in Gsp would meet them with a jab 

-An opponent would square up and try to throw over hands rights, Gsp would be circling to outside their shoulder and interrupt with a jab, or jab and pivot out safely

-An opponent would anticipate the jab, Gsp would level change and take them down

-An opponent would anticipate the TD, Gsp would feint a level change and come up top with newly created offensive openings

You get the picture. The JAB was the GLUE that held Gsp's dominance together.

However you will notice how Gsp was mostly fighting orthodox fighters, and very rarely any southpaws. This is an important factor, which we will get into later.

Enter Johnny Hendricks. The reason why Gsp struggled so much with Hendricks is because Hendricks simply took away Gsp's jab. It was that simple. We will get into the WHY later on. 

Gsp without his jab simply became just an average to good fighter instead of the GOAT. Its just like how Anderson when forced to lead became a mediocre striker, or just like how - when Pettis was forced on the backfoot with no more space/time to kick he became a terribly mediocre striker, or just like how when Jon Jones has his long linear kicks taken away he becomes a terribly mediocre fighter. 

Btw, the only fully complete, wholey rounded, wholey skilled striker is Conor McGregor. You pressure Conor, he counter fucks you. You sit on the outside, Conor picks you apart, or he will set you up/draw you out and drop a lead or offensive counter on that ass. Conor can lead just as brilliantly as he counters. He can in-fight, fight on the outside etc. Conor in these regards is literally MMA's version of Floyd. When fighting Conor on the feet you literally have to pick your poison...

So anyway, you get the point, great fighters who were great at the thing they did better then most, you took that away from them, and they were no longer the same dominant fighter. Duh, common sense, right?

Now heres specifically HOW Hendricks took away Gsp's jab 

Hendricks being southpaw - this put his lead hand at a natural interference to Gsp's lead hand (jabbing hand)

This IS why it was important that Gsp was hardly ever fighting southpaws and gaining experience vs southpaws.

This meant that there was no longer a straight uncontested easy path from Gsp's jab hand to his opponents face.

Now this doesnt mean it then becomes impossible to still jab, but it makes it very difficult...and this is why you will then see the fighters battling and jockeying for lead hand positioning and or lead hand control

A recent example of this was in boxing with Crawford vs Postol. Crawford would go southpaw to put his lead hand at a natural interference with Postol's lead hand. Postol would be jockeying for lead hand positioning trying to get his jabs and 1-2s going. Crawford countered this by continually placing his lead hand HIGHER above Postol's lead hand so that Crawford was always in better positioning to parry down the jab/counter jab/or hook around the jab (whether its feet or hands, superior positioning wins) This took away Postol's jabs.

What Hendricks did, he would march Gsp down, and control Gsp's lead hand. Literally hold it in place, parry it, hit at it constantly etc

This effectively took away Gsp's jab. And Gsp without the jab became a worse fighter in all aspects of MMA. Gsp had to gut it out to win, and Gsp still won because HES GSP!!! But theres no denying that Hendricks was his TOUGHEST fight...and it was specifically because of Hendricks southpaw stance/lead hand.

 

Now when we look at Conor McGregor..

Conor IS A SOUTHPAW. This will already give Conor a huge advantage in dealing with Gsp's jab (the glue that holds Gsp together)

Not only that, Conor has a very extensive high-level boxing lead hand game. Conor will use his lead hand as a probing device for multuple uses.

1. To range find

2. To bait responses and counter

3. To distract for leads

4. To time out any rushes, snuff out, and counter fuck

(We also saw Conor showing off a beautiful hard jab against Nate in the rematch. Conor continuing to add wrinkles)

Now you can ONLY imagine the kind of devestation Conor would reek on Gsp

Conor will constantly be checking Gsp's lead hand, distracting him for leads, controlling him through lead hand probes, just shutting down Gsp's jab and or countering it.

Look at Conor vs Nate Diaz. Nate has a great lead hand game/jab. Every time Nate was jabbing, Conor was slipping and countering. Conor counter fucking Nate over his jab shut Nate's jab completely down. The threat of getting countered shuts you down. Its what happens when fighters face Floyd. Its what happened when Nate faced Conor's high IQ, slick, countering game.

Conor will know Gsp wants to jab. A couple slip and counters and that alone will make Gsp more hesitant to jab (shut his jab down)

Gsp without the jab no longer can keep opponents off set and his takedowns then start becoming much more telegraphed/predictable. Conor would have an easier time defending the TDs after shutting down the jab.

On paper, skill for skill, Conor CAN BE Gsp's WORST nightmare.

The only thing is, could Gsp with his immense size advantage (and top control if he does get Conor down) still pull it off? At the very least Gsp would 100% struggle mightily against Conor - because of the style match up and boxing skill/lead hand game/countering skill of Conor.

Gsp might try to muscle Conor against the fence ala BJ, but Conor has a stellar inside game thats on another universe to what BJ ever had. Every time Nate had Conor pressed against the fence in round 3, Conor was controlling the hands, creating space, slipping and rolling shots and sneaking in wicked body shots that gassed Nate. Thats why Conor dominated round 4. Gsp will get battered no matter what...but can Gsp still pull it out? I dont know..but its NOT anywhere NEAR the blow out people are convinced it is.

I really do hope Conor vs Gsp happens EVENTUALLY because Gsp will be an overwhelming favorite despite Conor having the style for Gsp and superior striking skill set for Gsp. Theres very real potential there to make easy money on Conor. At best Conor makes history. At worst Gsp struggles and we get to see Gsp and Conor go to war. Hopefully this educates. Gsp vs Conor IS NOT the simple outcome you think it is;)

Didn't read but here is a vote up for your effort. I wish I had that kind of time and patience to analyze a fight lol.. Phone Post 3.0